maxmercy Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 The Expendables 3: DD 5.1Level - 4 Stars (110.46dB composite)Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz)Dynamics - 5 Stars (29.03dB)Execution - 4 Stars (by poll) Overall - 4.5 StarsRecommendation - Buy (by poll)LionsGate is at it again with only Dolby Digital for the rental copy. Cheapskates. TrueHD 7.1 Level - 4 Stars (111.59dB composite)Extension - 5 Stars (9.6Hz)Dynamics - 5 Stars (28.97dB) JSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Thanks Max. So this is the DD track I take it going off your comments? If so I am wondering if the lossless version has the same mix....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiofan1 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Yes once again, Netflix + lionsgate= DD track but none the less its a solid 4.5 and we do have a very interesting mix here as it showcased some nice use of all the channels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan611 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I thought the lossless was fantastic. Film was only ok, but the best sounding of the 3 in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredhead Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Just thought I'd put these here too... Sub out loops with re-directed bass starting at 90Hz. I only focused on chapters 14 and 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Thanks! JSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Max, did you measure the DD or lossless track out of curiosity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 DD 5.1. JSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDuke Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I don't have Atmos so I watched the DD 5.1 sound track on a disk that I bought. I thought it sounded great. Plenty of bass for me. Probably 4.5 stars. I wonder how this would sound in Atmos or even TRUHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SME Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I don't know about Expendables 3, but I watched the Atmos track on TMNT using my older non-Atmos Denon with 5.1, and it worked fine. Actually, it worked better than fine as I noticed distinct phantom images from above and more sophisticated panning on my 5.1 system. I'm wondering if the whole Atmos track is matrixed down into the 7.1 track that gets decoded by the destination hardware? This may be essentially a PLIII technology, but it may be very well implemented. The imaging I heard is comparable to my local premium Atmos theater. The overheads are still better in the theater and as they probably are in a real home Atmos system. Ironically, I really didn't like the sound design, and I especially hated the movie (TMNT). Anyone else watch the Atmos track (even on a good 5.1/7.1 system) and notice what I describe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Killer bass track on this one.....WOW! Might be better than WS overall, but at worst is #2 for me on best bass tracks in 2014 I would say. Only issue I had is the random dropouts using my Oppo93 to bitstream the Atmos track which is a well known issue with some players and Oppo has already said there will be no fix for older players like my 93. Next watch in order to prevent the random dropouts, I am just going to decode the Atmos track (I just get the 7.1 True HD core as I am not setup for Atmos yet) in the 93 and send as LPCM. I am just curious what (if any) the overall master volume difference will be doing this vs bitstreaming? I watched at -1 last night bitstreaming and want to find this exact same volume level when decoding in the 93 and sending the LPCM. I will probably just pull out the SPL meter to figure it out unless there is some easy way to tell otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nube Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Added 7.1 TrueHD numbers and PvA. Pretty close to identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgans316 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 So the DD track is better than the Atnos track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infrasonic Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Nope. Looks identical save for a bump around 1hz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgans316 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Nope. Looks identical save for a bump around 1hz. Thanks, I can see that but as bassheads shouldn't we like the DD track over the Atmos track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infrasonic Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I don't think so. Content under 2hz is pretty irrelevant for even the most die hard 'basshead'. I'd rather have Atmos anyway over a lossy 5.1 mix with more <3hz content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aj72 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 This was a strange one for me. The first thirty minutes lacked any impact and had to boost an enormous amount. Actually threw another disc in to check everything was okay. After half an hour things came alive a bit but didn't ever get excited by anything in this. Some good moments but nothing great. I was waiting for something to grab me given a lot of people rate the bass in this am I missing something cause I thought it was pretty average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 This was a strange one for me. The first thirty minutes lacked any impact and had to boost an enormous amount. Actually threw another disc in to check everything was okay. After half an hour things came alive a bit but didn't ever get excited by anything in this. Some good moments but nothing great. I was waiting for something to grab me given a lot of people rate the bass in this am I missing something cause I thought it was pretty average. Interesting. The first part of the movie damn near blew me off the couch! Maybe the TrueHD enabled the night mode/DRC setting in your setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aj72 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yeah I'm wondering myself if it's something going on in my setup as I now use a mini DSP for sub EQ and this was the first full movie I've watched. Mind you everything is sounding excellent since the mini DSP EQ was done but maybe something not quite right? Anyhow I played another reference scene just after Expendables to see if everything ok (Hulk vs Abomination, Tron Legacy bikes) and everything sounded great. However just noticed slightly audible white noise from one sub which carries to main listening position which I hadn't noticed before.... Aaaarrrgghh this hobby sometimes drives me nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgans316 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I don't think so. Content under 2hz is pretty irrelevant for even the most die hard 'basshead'. I'd rather have Atmos anyway over a lossy 5.1 mix with more <3hz content. Thanks bud but for folks with 5.1 setup don't you think the DD sound should similar to the Atmos encode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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