Kyle

These changes are very small, what I have found in the past is that temperature difference can make a larger impact. As an extremely example, a motor chilled below 0 deg. can yield as much as 1.5dB greater burst output with max power which is pretty remarkable.

Ya, there is a huge cost difference between those subs and I think its still interested to see how subs with similar architecture stack up. The Cap will probably outgun the G213 for 1/3 of the cost but clearly the 18.2 is another level

Yep this thing is a beast, esp. for a sealed design -- 127dB . I would love to see this thing run up against the G213 or better yet, FunkAudio 18.2 just for fun

"It is around 10x smaller than the recommended enclosure volume for these woofers" You might want to find a driver with more BL product and a lower Q, otherwise its going to be tricky to EQ the thing. The other thing you could do is drop a size down and go with a 4" or 5" woofer. Your PR is already smaller than your driver which is unconventional to start with.

wow, gotta be pricey, why no TSPs tho?

haha I know everything is relative, more mass + more bl to offset only means the Q goes down. This thing has a low ass Q! This driver honestly gets me excited about woofer design again

that might run you ~300+ bucks for the raw magnet alone!

More or less my suppositions. The thing just deals with compression so much better than most drivers, essp. the pro drivers. I'm guessing for mere mortals that can only put 2-3k on a woofer -- a high end pro driver would be a better option. but holy smokes this thing has headroom. The problem with the B&C drivers is that while they have impressive SPLSens, they fall flat on their ass at high power because they have such short coils. Even the iPAL only had a ~1.7" long coil or so for the 18". My guess is this is why it didn't work well for you. I don't want to knock the RF in anyway, but I do believe that the DD motor plays less of a role in its performance and its more just a crap load of magnet with a very robust suspension. To me, this is what the XXX should have been. I think this driver has over double the BL of that driver to me, BL^2Re is light horsepower (albeit it a non-linear scale). A driver with 500 and this kind of stroke is freaking impressive . The new bar is 600/700

Josh, I'm not sure if this has been asked but how the heck does this thing beat out 18" and 21" woofers with even far more sensitivity even at the upper bass frequencies like 60Hz? Including the BC21SW152, Pro5100 and BMS18N862? It matches or bests all those at 60 and just obliterates them below 60 And It embarrassed the LMS5400 from pretty much 20Hz on up and the RE XX only hangs from 20 to 30hz. This thing has set a new bar, damn...I never figured a moving mass of 1Kg could do that!

Ya, I really want to hold on to em, but I need to the funds for other projects

Lowering price to 900

I have 4 BNIB TC Pro 5100's Never fired up! Was planing to keep these for a while but its time to give the up now. These are the drivers I helped design while I worked at TC Sounds and are some of my all time favorite woofers! I would like to get 1k for each.

I'm not really sure what to do here, people getting upset about content. ugh. How do people feel about keeping this thread for modern movies, and how many people just don't really care, content is content?

Just picked up a pair of RMX-4050s, huge power, big upgrade over the EP4000. Down side is they are not cheap and very heavy Upside is they really deliver and for a lot less $ than a PL or itech If you don't need to move your amp around too much, you can't go wrong with this thing. Got em for about $1100 each.

This may be tested soon too, its a little project im working on

Thanks for the support, i need to get my butt in gear, been working on some pro projects which have consumed much of my time, ill plan to put work into The prototype this year for sure I appreciate the enthusiasm!

No eta, it has a new surround which is currently a 15" BUT 18 is planned

Its an in between, larger motor than the R and more excursion More sensitivity , but still.a 3" coil

Yes, a lot less It won't use the variable resistive coil as that is not developed as a product yet but its a 3" coil, copper over the poll, larger magnet.

A birdy told me the prototype LMS-R2 will be ready for testing soon. I'll try and get a beta version here from TC. Keep fingeres crossed.

guys i did an update on the ipb software, not sure if we got any more options for photos or uploads, but let me know if things are working ok .... or not

+1 For the Sanway.