maxmercy Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 The Grey Gets 4 Stars and Rent. Elektra: Level - 4 Stars (110.24dB composite) Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (30.54dB) Execution - 4 Stars (by poll) Overall - 4.5 Stars Recommendation - Rent (by poll) Not a very good film save for eye candy, but very well done soundtrack, but missing out on a lot of the ULF spectrum. JSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring BD Theatrical added to the poll....vote! JSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfe man Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Right here, in the .50 cal scene: http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=504 This is with a 2 second FFT, it is a powerful effect. JSS Um, that is not .50 cal scene, its the first bomb explosion in the movie. .50 cal scene should have a lot of 5-15hz on chart what i remember. I don't recall being all that impressed with 2, but 3 is definitely something I wouldn't mind seeing measured. Grenades drop from car scene was pretty epic. Will The Haunting DTS be tested anytime soon? I may do it, if i get advice on it. Not by me, yet. Doubtful I ever will, because I simply do not play them anymore in my player. JSS Would be great if you would, we need to know if blu-rays are filtered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flageborg Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Um, that is not .50 cal scene, its the first bomb explosion in the movie. .50 cal scene should have a lot of 5-15hz on chart what i remember. Hurt Locker - Chapter 6 - .50 cal scene in the desert... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 You are clipped. Those .50 cal shots should not even get to +/-50% on your waveform graph if you leave enough headroom for 128dB peaks. You need 6 more dB of headroom. No single frequency in that scene should be above -18dBFS in that scene with a 2sec FFT. You are showing peaks above -10dB. Calibrate. JSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wth718 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The Grey Gets 4 Stars and Rent. Elektra: Level - 4 Stars (110.24dB composite) Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (30.54dB) Execution - TBD Overall - TBD Recommendation - TBD Not a very good film save for eye candy, but very well done soundtrack, but missing out on a lot of the ULF spectrum. JSS Any idea which scene contains that 1 Hz content? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flageborg Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Any idea which scene contains that 1 Hz content? Maybe it's Chapter 24? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Just after the 1hr mark. Most of these uber-ULF moments are not encoded hot enough to be noticeable, unless you are looking at the woofer cones, and you have a flat signal chain. How to Train your Dragon would be the closest, followed by WotW, Immortals. Flageborg, please calibrate your setup. JSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wth718 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Thanks, guys. Not much other, higher level bass to augment it, so that moment would go unnoticed in my rig, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 As requested: Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring - Extended DVD Edition DTS-ES 6.1: Level - 4 Stars (112.2dB composite) Extension - 3 Stars (16Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (29.3dB) Execution - Will poll Overall - TBD Recommendation - TBD This mix is 3dB hotter, and 2dB more dynamic than the BD Theatrical mix. It appears to be a better mix overall. The good news is that the BD Extended Edition Mix is nearly identical to this one, with a very similar PvA. So, the BD and DVD Extended Editions appear to be at least more Dynamic (that could be because more dialogue), and have more Level than the Theatrical BD. But the extension is identical to the BD Theatrical Release and BD Extended Edition, we seem to remember more extension in our audio memories. I feel no need to do the other DVD Extended Editions since the BD Extended Edition was so close to its DVD Extended Edition counterpart for this film. EDIT - There is very little clipping in this mix. What there is, only hits 0dBFS for one or two samples, then comes back down. Very well executed. JSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantisgrant Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Thanks a bunch for that. Looks like I'll stick with the BDs as my current set up doesn't go below 23 or 24 Hz. Glad to know though, as the Balrog and Sauron's death are still great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers BD Theatrical: Level - 3 Stars (108.95dB composite) Extension - 4 Stars (11Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (30.87dB) Execution - TBD Overall - TBD Recommendation - TBD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantisgrant Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Any memorable scenes from TTT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicke Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 How about the whole movie,its my favorite one : ) basswise nothing particullary moments though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantisgrant Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Definitely love the whole movie too! Just wondering if there was any notable extension moments like the SPOILERS bomb under helms deep, the dam breaking, or much of the ents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Give me timestamps and I'll graph the scenes. LOTR-FOTR gets 5 Stars and Buy. Now You See Me is up for voting. I'll see this one tonight. JSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King Theatrical BD Level - 3 Stars (109.6dB composite) Extension - 4 Stars (13Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (29.58dB) Execution - TBD Recommendation - TBD JSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Yeah, sucks doesn't it. Who knows what's at play. it could be "artistic license" from the idiot shot-caller sitting in the session, asking, urging, insisting that the engineers up the levels, and hit the format hard. Louder's better, right? The film industry prides themselves on standards, laughingly pointing out the lack thereof throughout their brethren in the music world. Who knows what happened. (I was an early adopter of DAT. I remember making mix tape/greatest hits DAT recordings of CDs. You'd have to search out the hottest peak on the recording, and set levels accordingly. Once or maybe twice the levels would come up within a dB or so of full scale, .. and that was it. These days, finding the recorded peak would be much easier.) We enjoyed two movies this weekend. Now You See Me, and Place Beyond the Pines. It's a good thing we watched NYSM first, because the latter was so heavy, so cerebral, just damn good IMO. That said, for me, it is so compellingly exhausting. Had never seen it/heard of it, took a chance and it paid. Not a special effects spectacular, by any measure. Now You See Me had some nice LFE. Thanks The Place Beyond The Pines was pretty good; did not expect it to head the way it did....a good break from the typical Hollywood cookie cutter. JSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossobass Dave Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 As requested: Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring - Extended DVD Edition DTS-ES 6.1: Level - 4 Stars (112.2dB composite) Extension - 3 Stars (16Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (29.3dB) Execution - Will poll Overall - TBD Recommendation - TBD This mix is 3dB hotter, and 2dB more dynamic than the BD Theatrical mix. It appears to be a better mix overall. The good news is that the BD Extended Edition Mix is nearly identical to this one, with a very similar PvA. So, the BD and DVD Extended Editions appear to be at least more Dynamic (that could be because more dialogue), and have more Level than the Theatrical BD. But the extension is identical to the BD Theatrical Release and BD Extended Edition, we seem to remember more extension in our audio memories. I feel no need to do the other DVD Extended Editions since the BD Extended Edition was so close to its DVD Extended Edition counterpart for this film. EDIT - There is very little clipping in this mix. What there is, only hits 0dBFS for one or two samples, then comes back down. Very well executed. JSS Yeah, something not right here. Here are just 2 caps of LOTR:FOTR EE Def getting way below 16 Hz on playback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 I read it straight off the discs. No AVR, no soundcard. It has content below 10Hz, but at nearly 20dB below the highest single freq peak. The content is there, at a lower level. Gimme timestamps for those caps and I'll graph them. JSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKtheater Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 I voted LOTR for 5 stars! These movies just have well executed LFE and audio and to me digs deep! I always and still use them as one awesome demo for musical score, surrounds, dynamics, and LFE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossobass Dave Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 I read it straight off the discs. No AVR, no soundcard. It has content below 10Hz, but at nearly 20dB below the highest single freq peak. The content is there, at a lower level. Gimme timestamps for those caps and I'll graph them. JSS The first one is when the Balrog is on the bridge and the 2nd is when Frodo puts on the ring near the end. Sorry, I don't have timestamps handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Balrog on Bridge, Strikes Gandalf's Staff which acts like a globular shield: Frodo Puts on the Ring at Amon Hen: You can see, the content is there, but 30dB below absolute maximum (128dB). That is still 98dB content, though. JSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossobass Dave Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I don't understand your graphs. My experience with this disc is that the low end is not at -28dB with single digits -10dB below that. Without any sort of calibration method, using comparison to other discs and the same system playback parameters, I just don't conclude that FOTR is a green/yellow soundtrack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantisgrant Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 From my just completed viewing at -25, I would definitely agree with Dave. Just a few more timestamps, if you'd like to test them out too. From the EE trilogy set Part 1: 20:30-21:00 First firework goes off 22:50-23:40 Dragon firework 27:40-28:00 Gandalf gets scary 54:25-55:00 (Not sure what this was) Part 2: 9:30-11:00 Rocks and snow fall 17:00-18:30 Kraken thing 38:45-39:30 Stairs collapsing 39:30-41:30 Balrog Thanks! Looking forward to TTT at some points soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.