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    A long time ago I thought of making 5-Star Dynamics >30dB, but it would involve changing waaaay too many posts and the rankings. No time....and the only 5-star films would be War Horse and Star Trek 2009, both worthy soundtracks. Most hi-action films will score below 30dB dynamics simply because too much of the film is loud. But if you think back to the most impressive soundtracks, IMO, high dynamics really helps (Drive, Star Trek, Transformers:Revenge of the Fallen). Although a film like Scott Pilgrim has an impressive soundtrack, the very loud and extended music portions decrease the dynamics score, even though I still fully enjoyed that track. The rating scale can only tell you so much, and sound is only a part of the experience. An engaging story really helps, and if the sound is done well with an engaging story, the result is terrific. JSS
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    Jason Bourne not a bad film, but pretty cookie-cutter for the franchise thus far. My favs are the first Bourne, and Bourne Legacy. Sound was good, not great, good use of ULF, but not very high in level, and the low dynamics score is quite evident when watching. I hope the dynamic range limitations we have been seeing on recent releases (especially Pixar films) will not be a mainstay of BD releases in the future. JSS
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    Jason Bourne (DTS-X) Level - 3 Stars (107.9dB Composite) Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz) Dynamics - 4 Stars (26.03dB) Execution - TBD Overall - TBD Notes - Haven't watched it yet, but full bandwidth effects, and very little clipping/hard limiting found, likely compressed a bit due to the dynamics score. Only about 10 instances of clipping, only one of them outside of the center channel, in R channel. The LFE channel is surprisingly lower in level than most films, most of the LF is in the LCRS. JSS
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    Jason Bourne up next. JSS
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    Suicide Squad: Extended Cut (Dolby ATMOS) Level - 4 Stars (110.6dB Composite) Extension - 2 Stars (22Hz) Dynamics - 4 Stars (26.31dB) Execution - TBD Overall - TBD Comments - No Clipping found, but 30Hz rolloff in place, like a lot of the recent crop of superhero films. Have yet to see the film, but appears to be a relatively clean presentation with some likely compression applied to limit the dynamics. JSS
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    Is that a mic capture or DSP sub out capture with a house curve in place? That is significant Infrasonic content. JSS
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    What formula are you using to convert Q to Slope? JSS
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    How old is the AVR? Early implementations of MultEQ XT had a 'bass boost' problem as a result of doing volume normalization. That or your subs are receiving such a hot signal as to clip the preamp, which can happen more easily than you think, esp if you run subs 'hot' from the AVR. Yes, Ender's Game's soundtrack clips too. But if you are hearing bad noises from one sub over another, either you are reaching mechanical limits, or you have reached the limitations of your signal chain. Most of the time, while a clipped track will sound bad, it will sound bad in every speaker, and not as bad as mechanical limits or amp clipping being reached sounds, IME. JSS
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    I am just joking around with Infrasonic, as he probably was above....Hence the "C'mon man" comment. I am hoping his response will make me laugh, as he can pull very appropriate memes and other interweb hilarity at will. JSS
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    NOT ENOUGH?!?!? In what way? ULF Tactile response, midbass slam (I can actually believe that one in a small room), or just can't reach Ref? WTF will be enough, 'fear for your structure' SPL? 'Fear for your life' SPL? Nearfield pistol/rifle/shotgun/artillery blasts triggered by a threshold on the soundtrack? Having been 100 meters away from a 155mm Howitzer I didn't know was going to send some hurt downrange (without hearing protection), I can tell you that 'fear for your f'ing life' SPL starts at around 140dB if it is not anticipated. Do you really need that, and the innumerable 'what, can you repeat thats' you will ask servers in crowded restaurants for the rest of your life? C'mon man..... JSS
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    Complex question. You have to take into account the signal strength being sent from your AVR/Processor as well. I use a Behringer iNuke to drive my Crowsons. JSS
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    Run the BEQ solution if you can. VERY different experience JSS
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    http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/12-the-low-frequency-content-thread-films-games-music-etc/?p=15014
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    No more recent sheet I am aware of. Nube's determination to get that spreadsheet that full of data (to say nothing of re-doing ALL the links from the first post when the site crashed) was a huge undertaking. JSS
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    I like your enthusiasm. If you would like to re-vamp the ratings system based on the data we have gathered, I'm all for it. I know the rating system is flawed, but at this time, even if I or you did change it, I would not have the time to go back and re-rate all the films, update all the links, etc. If you would like to take on this task, please do so. My time is much more limited now than when I started this project; I can barely watch one or two films in the HT at greater than -10dBRef monthly, if I am lucky. JSS
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    The reason for the semi-Gaussian distribution is that only 3 people, who receive zero compensation, have measured the films listed. The rating system was developed and is flawed in that most films will rate 3+. There would be far more <3 Star rated films if people would take the time to measure every release. I tend to only measure the releases I think will have significant LF effects, hence the number of 4+ Star films listed. If anyone wants to, they can measure more dialogue-heavy films to flesh out the list, or come up with a new ratings system. But I do not have the time. Most of the folks here know that with the current state of cinema mixing and monitoring capability, we are fortunate to have content <30Hz, and we are glad to get it, having invested significant resources to play it back in our homes. FWIW, I prefer an unclipped, dynamic mix above all. If the sound designers saw it fit to include infrasonics in the production, but it gets shelved away in mixing, that is relatively easy to fix with BEQ. Star Trek Beyond is a perfect example. Clean mix, decent dynamics, and the content was simply shelved under 30Hz. With BEQ, the LF sweep with the Enterprise traveling at warp digs down to the high teens instead of fading away at 40Hz But there is no fixing clipped waveforms and over-compressed tracks, and we seem get those more often. JSS
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    BEQ significantly helps Star Trek Beyond. It doesn't make it a monster, but the LF that was shelved was in the right places. JSS
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    It is much better, good impact and appropriate heft for the oncreen action... The sound designers look like they knew what they were doing, and then the shelf was put in later. Zero Infrasonic noise noise in LFE, had to use the ~DC highpass on the LCRS, though. It's no 9 or Star Trek 2009 or War of the Worlds, but it is much improved. JSS
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    Star Trek: Beyond BEQ This film improves significantly. After applying BEQ, to get equivalent dialogue level, you have to playback at +7dB your normal listening level. Pre/Post PvA: BEQ Solution: LFE Channel: 1. Gain -7dB 2. Low Shelf 27Hz, Q of 0.707 (Slope of 1), +6dB x5 filters (total of +30dB Shelf) LCRS: 1. Gain-7dB 2. Low Shelf 30Hz, Q of 0.707 (Slope of 1), +6dB x4 filters (+24dB total Shelf) 3. Low Shelf 30Hz, Q of 0.707 (Slope of 1), +3dB 4. HighPass Filter, 1.5Hz, 6dB/octave New Ratings after BEQ played back at Reference (+7dBRef): Level: 5 Stars (112.6dB Composite) Extension: 4 Stars (12Hz) Dynamics: 5 Stars (30.5dB) Loudest moment of the film when played back at +7dBRef is 126dB, 2dB under a 7.1 Worst Case Scenario, and only for an instant. Hottest prolonged effect (1/8 of a second) is 116dB. If your system can handle Reference with TDKR, you can run this solution at Equivalent Ref (+7dBRef). Try out the solution and report your opinions. JSS
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    I'm going to give the low-cycle FDW EQ a try to see how it affects my system. Sounds like it worked well for you. JSS
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    Still have to screen it to see if it will not be too much correction, but here's the BEQ tentative solution: JSS
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    Star Trek: Beyond - Dolby ATMOS Level - 4 Stars (110.16dB composite) Extension - 0 Stars (33Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (28.55dB) Execution - TBD Overall - TBD Comments - Wow, what a rolloff. But the good news is only clips occasionally in the LFE channel, LCRS are clean, no flat-tops. This one will probably need a BEQ correction. JSS
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    The sound was terrific. The movie was trash to the non-WoW initiated. JSS
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    WarCraft (Dolby ATMOS) Level - 3 Stars (109.82dB Composite) Extension - 5 Stars (8Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (29.02dB) Execution - TBD Overall - TBD Comments - Clips only a few times, longest flat top I found was only 1ms long. Appears to be by waveform analysis a technically superior track compared to most these days. I'll take a slightly lower dB Composite Level any day if it means the audio wasn't clipped. I hope the film is decent. EDIT - While the film has good sound and visual effects, it does not make up for it's drawbacks in every other category that counts as a 'watchable movie' for anything other than people well-versed in the WarCraft universe. The acting is cringe-worthy. JSS
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    I still have yet to find a truly proper setting to make them feel seamless, but they make a film seem 'louder' just by being on, as the sensation is nearly identical to my old nearfield sub setup. Where do you lowpass them, and 2nd or 4th order? JSS
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