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Looks a bit like Ender's Game cheats a bit on the Extension rating with that 4Hz peak lol

All is Lost looks like a monster, though!

I will instead suggest 'Unstoppable' as a potential movie to graph!

Added to queue.

 

JSS

Thank you!

I thought I remember that one being graphed already and it was mostly rolling off below 30hz? Maybe I am remembering wrong. It sure was a midbass monster at the cinema. Oooo! Another one to throw onto my 'revisit' queue.

You may be correct - I did search on here and couldn't find anything, but my browser is refusing to play ball with the AVS website and I can't search the Movies with Bass thread (or any thread...) on there to check!

Thanks for all the detailed posts above

I feel bad not responding directly to them with something clever but my brain is tired and I'm not sure I have anything worthwhile to add right now   lol

I will instead suggest 'Unstoppable' as a potential movie to graph!

I don't recall City of Ember ever being mentioned on any of these bass threads - if it was possible to get some measurements of it that would be cool

My feeling is something like a 20-25Hz filter but the bass is nicely done and not that shy, being used sparingly where necessary but then coming in strongly and with a degree of realism IMHO!

Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs 2 (5.1 DTS-HD MA)

Level        - 2 Stars (105.4dB composite)

Extension - 2 Stars (22Hz)

Dynamics - 5 Stars (32.38dB)

Execution - Will Poll

 

Overall     - TBD

 

Recommendation - Will Poll

 

Notes: 

 

PvA:

 

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Jeez, now that's what you call a filter...

I re-watched ST:iD last night - man, that movie is all over the shop volume-wise...  I had to turn it down and back up again countless times as it was just too much at points then went really quiet and I couldn't hear the dialogue  

They really failed on this one whereas the first one was much better!

Thanks for all the hard work, Nube!

Thanks for the graph my suggestion of Bolt

I'm surprised it didn't dig a bit deeper TBH but then perhaps it's just playing to the strengths of my SVS.

Roll on completing my AIY setup!!

Riddick Unrated (5.1 DTS-HD MA)

Level        - 3 Stars (108.5dB composite)

Extension - 1 Stars (27Hz)

Dynamics - 5 Stars (29.93dB)

Execution - Will Poll

 

Overall     - TBD

 

Recommendation - Will Poll

 

Notes:  This one leaves a lot on the table, though it does have pretty good dynamics.  To compare it to Pacific Rim, which was also steeply filtered, but at a lower starting point than Riddick, this one is ~10dB lower in total, overall RMS.  That's a lot left on the table compared to PR, though Riddick doesn't suffer nearly as much from compression/limiting.  The overall mix is decent, but was missing a fair bit of surround effects compared to other sci-fi action movies, which was most obvious in the opening action sequences and at the end in the storm - surround effects of wind & rain came in and out of focus intermittently. 

 

Extension only to 27Hz as the -10dB point is weak, and caused the mix to come across as fairly flat-feeling compared to most other action mixes in recent memory.  This was never more evident than near the beginning when Riddick knocks over a large black stone obelisk.  If you've ever been around construction sites, you know that when large, heavy rock or concrete hits the ground, it causes a tremendous sound & pressure wave.  The obelisk in Riddick did nothing of the sort as it fell and broke, partly because the effect had almost everything below 25Hz steeply filtered out.  What was above 25Hz was loud, but not especially realistic because it included none of the powerful energy you feel in person - most of the energy is centered at 45Hz.  Check the graph at the bottom to see what I'm talking about.

 

I think the franchise as a whole is just a vehicle for Vin Diesel to act gruff & tuff, and the movie stinks anyway, so the sound is not really a surprise.  This film isn't something you should own, unless you're a fanboi whose totally in the tank for Vinny and the series.

 

PvA:

 

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SpecLab scenecap:

 

Obelisk

 

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Cliff falling

 

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FilmMixer explained his views and his mixing process on Riddick over on AVS: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1333462/the-new-master-list-of-bass-in-movies-with-frequency-charts/13170#post_24196699

Dave. I've never said I'm against putting it in or that it's harmful when it does get put in.

 

It doesn't just show up, however, and then arbitrarily get taken out.... In a vast majority of cases, it must be put there by intent.

 

Do you rally think that 2% of home theaters can properly reproduce below 16Hz?

 

I would guess it is well less than .5%.

 

Even if we concede that it's 2%, it's been been discussed that dub stages and theaters and studios aren't built to reproduce such content....

 

I know why all those RT tracks that Dave mentioned have the ULF in them that they do... I've also confirmed that the dub stages and design rooms where they were created don't go appreciably lower than the industry standard.

 

My personal option is that I'm not going to spend extra resources creating material I can't properly reproduce in a majority of venues where it will be reproduced

 

I don't get rid of it, but I also don't concern myself with the lack of it on the films I work on. In the end, there are so many more things in soundtracks that add to the experience than ULF almost no one can reproduce.

 

Looking at it another way, if I had a mixing stage that sounded better than 98% of the venues out there, I would make decisions that would adversely effect the track when played back in said places.....

 

...

 

 

So to rephrase your comment, I focus on what I know 99% of people can reprocdcue, rather than the 10hz of material that very few can......

 

In the end, it's just not a point of discussion that comes up with my peers, and the passion gets amplified here by a select few who have a somewhat myopic view on the subject of film sound....

 

I'm a big picture guy...

 

...

I do take his point - if the 99% are happy why make life difficult for yourself for the 1% or less - but the full BW stuff is just better IMHO lol

The Golden Compass:

 

Level - 4 Stars (110.65dB)

Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz)

Dynamics - 5 Stars (31.18dB)

Execution - TBD

 

Overall - TBD

 

Recommendation - TBD

 

 

This film has a terrific soundtrack, too bad they couldn't make any sequels....Look at the sweep (attached)

 

JSS

Horton Hears a Who:

 

Level - 3 Stars (108.96dB composite)

Extension - 5 stars (2 Hz)

Dynamics - 5 Stars (33.28dB)

Execution - TBD

 

Overall - TBD

 

Recommendation - TBD

 

 

JSS

It's good to see (and slightly bizarre lol) that the kids films have good stuff for us big kids adults!

I need to watch Horton and re-watch Golden Compass...

Horton was a Gary Rizzo mix, which I didn't know! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451079/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

Cool, thank you!

Gary Rizzo was sound re-recording mixer on the Lorax and I like the overall presentation, although I don't think it goes that deep, and Randy Thom was sound designer / sound re-recording mixer on Bolt, which does have a pretty bass-heavy opening 10 minutes if nothing else!

Have the Lorax and Bolt been graphed?