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Here's a list I created a couple of years ago on a different site, but had stopped maintaining. If you don't see a common bass movie acronym on the list, reply with your suggestion and it'll be considered.Note: if a link doesn't take you to the exact measurements of the movie, just hit F5 to reload the page. (This has to do with bad browser rendering when multiple image placeholders try to display at once, not the site itself or your computer.)AGDTDH or DH5= A Good Day To Die Hard (aka Die Hard 5)AIL = All Is Lost
AOF = The Art of Flight
AVP = Alien vs. PredatorB:LA = Battle: Los AngelesBHD = Black Hawk Down
CITW = Cabin In the WoodsCOTT = Clash of the TitansDOFP = XMen: Days of Future Past
EG = Ender's GameEoT = Edge of TomorrowEtE or E2E = Earth to EchoFOTP = Flight of the PhoenixGG or TGG = The Great GatsbyGOTG = Guardians of the GalaxyHB1, HB2 = Hellboy, Hellboy 2: The Golden ArmyHTTYD = How To Train Your Dragon
ITS = Into the StormKFP = Kung Fu PandaLFODH or DH4= Live Free or Die Hard (aka Die Hard 4)LOTR FOTR = Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the RingLOTR TTT = Lord of the Rings: The Two TowersLOTR ROTK = Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
MoS = Man of SteelMU = Monsters UniversityMWTIF = The Man with the Iron FistsOHF = Olympus Has Fallen
PR or PacRim = Pacific Rim
SPR = Saving Private RyanSTID = Star Trek Into DarknessT1, T2, T3 = Terminators 1, 2 & 3TS or T4 = Terminator SalvationTAS = The Amazing Spider-ManTDK = The Dark KnightTDKR = The Dark Knight RisesTDAT = The Day After TomorrowTHL or HL = The Hurt LockerTIH = The Incredible HulkT:L = Tron: Legacy
TR = Total RecallU:A = Underworld: AwakeningWOTT = Wrath of the TitansWOTW = War of the WorldsWWZ = World War ZZDT or ZD30 = Zero Dark Thirty
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Everly (5.1 DTS-HD MA)
Level - 5 Stars (113.46dB composite)
Extension - 5 Stars (8Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (29.37dB)Execution - 5 Stars (by poll)
Overall - 5 Stars!!!
Recommendation - Rent (by poll)Notes: I liked it and thought it was a solid production with good bass that was fairly carefully limited, rarely overreaching. Not the best film, but solid bass. Might be the least exciting of the 5 stars, though.
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Looks like we have a new addition to the true 5 star club! Ragnarok!
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Interstellar (5.1 DTS-HD MA)
Level - 5 Stars (114.1dB composite)
Extension - 2 Stars (22Hz)
Dynamics - 4 Stars (26.09dB)Execution - 4 Stars (by poll)
Overall - 3.75 Stars
Recommendation - Buy (by poll)Notes: We've been waiting for this?!?!? Interstellar is clipped all to hell. Well, technically it's just hard-limited, but as maxmercy says, "if you're hitting the brick wall limiter, maybe you need to revisit your mix technique." Check the graphs - almost everything L/C/R + LFE in loud sequences is chopped off, and it sounds very obviously crunchy and muddy.
This is reflected in the poor dynamics score, too - whoever said this is a very dynamic mix needs to get their ears checked. LOUD != DYNAMIC or DEEP. Yeah, the 30Hz effects might rattle your windows and your couch, but they're hollow sounding and not very realistic. This mix booms, when it could fill the room with pressure and power.
I'll admit that I really enjoyed the movie, even if the ending was not properly supported through the story's development. However, what most people are complaining about regarding the mixing of the dialog is totally true in my experience - even during quiet sequences, you just couldn't hear the dialog. At all. Overall, Interstellar a huge disappointment in mixing, yet a movie worth watching. Once. Nolan should never "turn it up to 11!!!!!!" in the mixing booth.
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The Exorcism of Emily Rose (5.1 TrueHD)
Level - 3 Stars (108.55dB composite)
Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (31.74dB)Execution - 4 Stars (by poll)
Overall - 4.25 Stars
Recommendation - Tossup (by poll)Notes: I'm not a big fan of horror movies, and this one is why - it scares me to this day. Perhaps it's the scenes with creepy, loud bass down low that raises the hairs on my neck. Perhaps it's the fact that I was raised Catholic. Perhaps it's the huge transients that make my heart race. I don't know, but 3:00AM still bothers me if I wake up around then, even though I don't believe in that stuff!
There are several scenes with huge content below 20Hz. One reuses that 1Hz & 5Hz effect a few times, and wow is it intense.
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It's not a super loud movie, so you may need to bump the volume +5 or so, but you won't regret it.
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Exodus: Gods and Kings (7.1 DTS-HD MA)
Level - 3 Stars (109.24dB composite)
Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (28.36dB)Execution - 5 Stars (by poll)
Overall - 4.5 Stars
Recommendation - Rent (by poll)Notes: Mixed by the same guy who did Star Trek (2009), the sound design is very well articulated, but subtle. There's nothing even approaching clipping in the whole movie, nor is it soft/hard limited. It's a nice, fairly clean mix (unlike the upcoming 30Hz blockbuster that everyone's raving about because it's so loud).
The graphs don't lie - this one's got the goods down low, too. What's weird is there is a TON of medium level content below 10Hz that is skillfully used to build the mood. It really imparts power. The same sound designer who worked on Captain Phillips must have brought a lot of that library over, because it's excellent. The movie is ho-hum but the sound is good.
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The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies (7.1 DTS-HD MA)
Level - 3 Stars (107.91dB composite)
Extension - 3 Stars (17Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (28.9dB)Execution - 3 Stars (by poll)
Overall - 3.5 Stars
Recommendation - Buy (by poll)Notes: Comparing to the second one (The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug), this looks like it gained considerable extension at the expense of a little level and dynamics. I haven't watched it yet (not a fan of these Hobbit movies at all), but when looking at the Speclab PvA, it sure looks to have some content from 10-20Hz, just severely rolled off.
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It's the normal Region A one listed on Amazon.com for $20, it's just Norwegian language audio track #1. I got the BR from Netflix.
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Beast,
Do they measure well in terms of rolloff? I'm also seeing that they're fairly cheap for the output. If there's a documented fan mod, and the rolloff is solid, I may be in the market for one.
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Has fight club ever been graphed?
Ooh, new graphs, thanks nube!
Ragnarok looks potentially awesome - the track measured was the norwegian audio with subtitles?
I have Ratatouille in my 'to watch' pile so I shall bump it nearer the top
Yep, Ragnarok was measured with the Norwegian audio.
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Whiplash (5.1 DTS-HD MA)
Level - 2 Stars (105.6dB composite)
Extension - 1 Star (48Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (32.83dB)Execution - 3 Stars (by poll)
Overall - 2.75 Stars
Recommendation - Buy (by poll)Notes: What this is not - a bass movie, though it does have pretty solid kick drums in places. What this is - a spectacular movie with solid percussion that's very well mic'd and mixed, including fantastic acting, and all set to some of the best standard jazz you'll hear anywhere. I'm only including it here because we have a bunch of musicians who frequent the site, and ya'll should watch this movie. It's the best movie of any genre I've seen in the last year+.
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Ragnarok (Norwegian 5.1 DTS-HD MA)
Level - 5 Stars (112.56dB composite)
Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (28.34dB)Execution - 5 Stars (by poll)
Overall - 5 Stars!!!
Recommendation - Buy (by poll)Notes: I'll be honest - after reading reviews of the bass in various places, I streamed this via Netflix and was not at all impressed. It didn't even wake my girlfriend on a weeknight at my normal listening levels, and I thought the movie was mediocre.
However, after all the positive reviews continued to roll in, I grabbed the BR and measured it. I haven't rewatched the disc, but it has fantastic scores. While the mixers left a bunch of really high level DC noise in the mix, that's not the story. The real story here is the TRUCKLOAD of VERY HOT content from 9-25Hz. Almost every scene has something deep in it.
I'll wait to cast my vote until I've watched the disc, but this is tentatively vying for the coveted true 5 star rating!
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Yes, Toe. I have the import. Let me see if I can get the English track measured today.
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Ratatouille (5.1 PCM)
Level - 3 Stars (109.07dB composite)
Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (33.96dB)Execution - 4 Stars (by poll)
Overall - 4.25 Stars
Recommendation - Buy (by poll)Notes: This is one of my favorite movies of all time. The shotgun blasts in the beginning are insane, and they account for the big bump below 10Hz. The second half of the movie has very little bass content, but the movie is such a winner that you'll never notice.
When you watch this, you'll understand why Randy Thom's mix and sound effects were both nominated for Academy awards. The mix is full, extremely dynamic, clear, clean and diverse.
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Big Hero 6 (7.1 DTS-HD MA)
Level - 2 Stars (107.48dB composite)
Extension - 2 Stars (20.4Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (30.98dB)Execution - 3 Stars (by poll)
Overall - 3 Stars
Recommendation - Buy (by poll)Notes: The bass was reminiscent of Fury in some ways - not loud, not low, but sounded pretty good and was fairly dynamic. It was used to pretty good effect throughout.
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Is a Crest Pro-lite 7.5 a good option? Reviews I found said solid power output, fans that aren't very loud, more reliable than IPR2 7500, and not too expensive. I just don't know about the rolloff.
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I measured both Nightcrawler and Force Majeure after they were mentioned a few weeks/months ago elsewhere. Nightcrawler was a good movie, even though Jake G. is a weirdo - don't like him in much of anything. While neither is a bass movie - both exhibiting very low levels and minimal bass effects - they do have content extension to single digits. I'd post them if anyone wanted, but I doubt anyone cares.
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Is that one of the worst ever?
Yep. If you click the link on the first page to the spreadsheet, goto View at the top, Choose list, then click on the Extension column a couple of times to sort it descending, looks like Dracula Untold is the 3rd worst measured extension ever. Pitiful.
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^^ Nube, looks like the Extension on Dracula Untold is at 34.5hz, not 24.5hz? (-10dB on "average" trace) Either way.. it's a stinker..
Good catch! Thanks. I've updated it on both this and the polled thread.
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Black Sea (5.1 DTS-HD MA)
Level - 3 Stars (108.65dB composite)
Extension - 2 Stars (22Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (30.96dB)
Execution - 3 Stars (by poll)
Overall - 3.25 Stars
Recommendation - Rent (by poll)
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