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Yes, sometimes the peak hold has not reset from the last graph. For each cap I have to grab the graph, send it to paint and crop/name it, snap a pic of and note the time stamp of the beginning and end of the scene.
Sitting there waiting for the PH to reset is a drag, especially when you have a dozen movies to catch up on and losing the PH because you set it shorter but took too long to set the screen to a decent frame to take a pic of it just as aggravating, especially when all you have to do is glance at the colors and you have that information anyway.
I believe I'm going to eliminate the PH/Ave bar from my caps, as I have in the past. This will allow me to use the dozens I already have without having to do them all over for the sake of the PH/Ave feature.
Ah, OK. Simple and clear explanation. I was wondering about that thoug, because when I first noticed it, I looked at the traces again to make sure that the traces were not identical, and they weren't. So I'm actually still a little confused by that part, but your explanation that the scene specific PH/Ave traces are potentially not accurate and should be disregarded, is explanation enough. The color charts DO provide enough of a visual indicator (although I did like potentially being able to see what peak db levels each frequency hit in the scenes).
Max
P.S. As always, I appreciate the time and effort you guys are putting into doing this.
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WOTW... check the new Title Block with rating system and tell me if it's OK or suggest a change...
Hey Dave, I was just checking out these graphs again and had a couple of questions:
In the graphs for Chapters 4 and 5, there is much more intense coloration in the graph below 20Hz for the Chp 4 graph than the Chp 5 graph, but the peak traces at the top of the graphs appear very similar for 4 & 5? Any idea why that is? Based on the colors, I would have expected Chp 4 to show much higher Peak (and Average) activity, especially below 10Hz (of course for ULF, Chp 9 is still King Of The Hill).
Max
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Hey, thanks Dave. Been wondering about that movie. I'll have to pick it up at the rental
Max
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OK, I got all of the graphs above level-matched and updated. More soon. Now that the graphs are level matched, here's TIH vs Immortals. Will update the first post with films graphed and rating soon.
JSS
Cool. Looks like TIH has one scene where there is a good 8.5Hz spike, but Immortals actually has more content below 25Hz overall?
BTW, I was curious about the B:LA trace. It looks like there is more content at 3Hz than anything else? Is that right? It's an odd looking trace compared to all the others.
Max
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JSS,
Immortals huh? How does WOTT compare?
Max
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Great to be able to get in on a quantifiable ratings scale from the ground up.
Since the original intent of the concept was to provide a database of the bass content in movies, which can be browsed through to discern which movies have noteworthy bass (and are thus worth buying, or at least viewing), one of the things I was thinking was for the ratings system to have sub-categories. In maxmercy's example in the 1st post, this would fall under the A-assessment section.
eg.
- ULF: to differentiate between movies that go down to say single digit Hz,vs teens vs filtered at 30Hz etc.
- Amount: There could be a lot of bass in the movie, but it may all be above 30Hz etc.
Just bouncing some ideas around, as it would be good to be able to easily differentiate between movies like FOTP (Flight Of The Phoenix) and WOTW (War Of The Worlds) which might have 1 or 2 standout scenes in the enitre movie, but excellent demo scenes nonetheless, vs. movies like WOTT or TL (Tron:Legacy), that have lots of bass throughout the movie. It would help with movies that some of us personally haven't seen. I'd say that the P-A graps would be a good indicator of this, but if we're going to rate the movies and rank them, perhaps that would make it easier for someone browsing the list to differentiate between the types. Just a simple 5-star rating is too vague.
I would say that the eventual ratings, if we're going to group movies in any manner similar to a star rating system, is going to unavoidably be subjective, but perhaps if we could rate them something like:
FOTP with a 5.1.7 for example (purely theoretical, simply as an example) for 5-star bass, must-watch, demo-worthy:1 standout bass scene: ULF extension to 7Hz.
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Avengers with a 3.x.30 for 3-star bass: MANY bass scenes: extension only to 30Hz.
These are all just idle musings thus far. I'd like to hear everyone else's input too.
Oh, and yes, I like the first template too.
Max
The Low Frequency Content Thread (films, games, music, etc)
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Go into the Oppo menu and make sure Secondary Audio is OFF. If it's ON, you won't get the Lossless track.
Max