Revilof

20 hours ago, peniku8 said:

Funds and space for entirely new subs will be less than what you'd need (overall) to get additional subs to fill out the lowest octave.

Looks like you're just collecting ideas at this point, since neither funds nor space for your initial proposal is available either.

You can possibly replace your 8 subs with 4 Skrams and get the same midbass output, plus better sub bass, but you will likely need new amps as well. Well, to use them to their full potential at least. 3-5KW per Skram should be a good match with TotL drivers (burst; they will melt if you give them 5KW sustained averages).

Thanks for the reply, I am not planning on having everything built at once due to those reasons but from selling the es218s and putting in the money I have, I would have the storage and funds to have two dedicated subs built and add have more built once funds and storage are available.

Thanks for the reply and information, however for the time being I just don't have the space (transport/storage) or even funds to replace out the usbv2s with something justifiable just yet, for a 30"x30"x20" box that weighs about 30kg and has a clean output down to 35hz they're silly and look amazing.

If I had the space available I would probably get skhorns built (based on the systems list), but for storage reference here's my garage where most of it needs to be stored. The Es218s are elsewhere and whatever else I got would need to fit into their floorspace as they would be getting replaced. 

I guess for the time being I will just have to suck it up and sad dance whenever I hear that deep low rumble 😅😂

1 hour ago, klipsch said:

Sell 8 usbv2s. Build skrams. 

Avoid needing extra equipment for integrating, powering, and eq'ing multiple cabinets. 

Sounds like that is an answer that does not want to be heard. 

Yeah not the information I was hoping for 😅 so any reason why that should be  avoided (apart from phase issues)? 

We're keeping the usbv2s as they're just too useful, I can fit 8 of them, 4 tops, amp rack and lights into a swb low roof ford transit by myself, which wont be possible with if we replaced them with skrams or most other cabinets.

21 minutes ago, SME said:

Maybe you can build some SKORNs or SKRAMs (see other threads on this forum) and plug one of the vents to get down into the 20s?  Though again if you do this, you won't need the USBv2s at all anymore as those cabs run up to 100 Hz or higher.

Thanks for the reply, I will have another look into the skrams but the skhorns are too big for what we're looking for. I'm not looking to replace the usbv2s with anything but looking for something to compliment them and fill in the gap they miss.

Correct me if i am wrong as my knowledge is limited, but to me it would make sense to split the frequencies between different bass cabs to have more power and processing available rather than having full range bass cabinets? 

6 hours ago, peniku8 said:

By the time you have enough Othorns to keep up with the midbass of the other horns, you can get rid of the USBv2s entirely. Beisdes that, the Othorn isn't an infra design, they will probably not add as much as you'd hope for. If you want infras, you might want to look into a custom vented cab tuned to ~20Hz or so, but you will need a lot of juice (and a lot of cabs). And then ask yourself, do you even need them?

Thanks for the reply and information, I suppose I'm not actually looking for infrabass then, but something to fill in the lower frequencies that the USBv2s just can't reach, as every time I go out an hear something with that deep rumble it makes me sad we cant do that 😂. Also keeping up with the USBv2s shouldn't be a problem as most of the time we would just bring one sub to one mid bass and if the full system is out it is usually much more than what is needed and we keep the gain down so it is a nice and coherent and not overpowering.

We would be selling the es218s and looking to find a relatively small cab with a good frequency range from around 25hz-50hz and run the usbv2s from 50hz-100hz and run the kmt8s from there an up. We currently have an mc2 e90 or Zp z8 (4x2000w @8ohm) to run whatever we decide on getting. But out of everything othorns are still looking good

So our system currently consists of 8 usbv2s, 2 es218s and 4 kmt8 (stable audio). Which runs nicely from 35hz and up, however they drop off quite sharply after this and I have major fomo for lower frequencies, I have been scouting around and othorns for their output and size seem to fit the bill. I highly doubt anyone will currently be running a combo of othorns and usbv2s, but the usbv2s are fairly similar to turbosound and f1 single 18" hybrid horns which are much more common. Has anyone ran othorns with single 18" hybrids and if so, are they easy to align and how did they sound? 

Cheers, 

Oliver.