Jeff Permanian Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Hello Jeff, can you tell us a little bit about the driver differences between this new cap 1400 and the current version? The new has the same geometry as the Captivator 4000ulf drivers(different impedance for the 1400w amp). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Permanian Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 We're really excited about the new Captivator 118HT. We're measuring the same output as the 1400 from 50hz and up while still putting out 105db at 16hz, 2m, rms. Hopefully, Josh can test the 118, 1400 and S1 in the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricci Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 How was that 10th anniversary party? Sorry I couldn't make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Permanian Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 It was good. People actually came in from NH, FL, NE and other places. We showed off a pair of Captivator 4000ULF is the warehouse and then new Captivator 118HT in the demo room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radulescu_paul_mircea Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Is this from that day? https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=774711192682354&id=305310779622400 :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Permanian Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Yes sir. The celphone audio is horrible so just ignore that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerFE Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Jeff, could you chime in about how the driver is able to put out more low end with the same amount of power? The bigger ports mean there is less enclosure volume, so the power requirement should go up, but the old Cap 1400 is already pretty severely power limited. The other way is more motor strength, but the old driver is already very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Permanian Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 We modified the cabinet to regain the cabinet volume. With the new driver we had to lower the dcr a little to get the efficiency back that was lost from the longer coil. The, in band, zmin is exactly 2.5 ohms which is the minimum the 700asc module will put out full power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 We modified the cabinet to regain the cabinet volume. With the new driver we had to lower the dcr a little to get the efficiency back that was lost from the longer coil. The, in band, zmin is exactly 2.5 ohms which is the minimum the 700asc module will put out full power. Jeff, does the cap driver use round or flat wire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Permanian Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Jeff, does the cap driver use round or flat wire? We can't give away all our secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Permanian Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 For 2017, we increased the Orbit Shifter and Captivator 1400 driver's Xmas to 33mm (from 30mm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerFE Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Jeff, does the cap driver use round or flat wire? We can't give away all our secrets. Can I ask what's the big deal with round or flat wires? Using round or flat wires make a performance difference? I would think the question I asked about how the Cap is getting more low end output would be a way bigger secret than the type of wire used. I'm not pressuring Jeff to divulge in any way, I'm just wondering how the type of wire could be more secretive than getting more low end output from an already exceptionally optimized system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Permanian Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Showing off dyno charts is one thing but that isn't going to tell anyone how they got those numbers. Popping the hood of a car isn't going to show the cam profile, compression, squish, rod length, fuel map, etc. We don't discuss magnets and steel grades, motor geometry or voicecoil specs. Someone can pull a driver out and get t/s parameters but they won't know how we got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Sure I understand, the flat (or edge wound) coils (at least from precision econowind) cam really do a number to the part cost. I have typically seen about 8-10% higher L numbers as a result. This of course will raise inductance too, but the advantage here is you don't need to make the gap wider and hurt the B as would be the case with another layer or two of turns to achieve similar results. Flat seems to be an advantage, but its not night and day and doesn't dictate final performance as Jeff mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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