MiniHT Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Agreed^^ I haven't seen this in a while, but I remember the word "dynamic" came to mind when I watched it as well. One of my favorite scenes for bass is actually one that's never really talked about. It's after the very first gunshot, in the very beginning. It lasts from after that first gunshot all the way until he meets Beatrice in the diner. My chairs sway back and forth.. and it's not all that subtle if you listen at reference. It feels like I'm sitting on JELLO. I remember seeing a graph over at the other site.. it was "blips" of 3-6hz iirc with nothing else going on. Very, very cool stuff.. It gave that very ominous, "sense of doom" kind of feeling for me. Would love to see that part graphed if anyone has the chance.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemX Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Agreed^^ I haven't seen this in a while, but I remember the word "dynamic" came to mind when I watched it as well. One of my favorite scenes for bass is actually one that's never really talked about. It's after the very first gunshot, in the very beginning. It lasts from after that first gunshot all the way until he meets Beatrice in the diner. My chairs sway back and forth.. and it's not all that subtle if you listen at reference. It feels like I'm sitting on JELLO. I remember seeing a graph over at the other site.. it was "blips" of 3-6hz iirc with nothing else going on. Very, very cool stuff.. It gave that very ominous, "sense of doom" kind of feeling for me. Would love to see that part graphed if anyone has the chance.. Looks like this might be the post you're talking about? http://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-subwoofers-bass-transducers/1333462-new-master-list-bass-movies-frequency-charts-249.html#post23149005 (posted by flageborg) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefdvr27 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 SME, No comparison to TF5 was implied, I was just saying that whatever headroom is made available, Michael Bay will use it, and clip it. Real Steel was not very good, IMO, film or bass... the dialogue had reverb in it at times, so much so I had to check I didn't have some kind of 'hall' or 'cathedral' setting mistakenly applied on the AVR. JSS I really liked Real Steel, Actually the whole family liked it. To be honest I have not watched it in along time and did not see it with any of my current equipment. I remember it having some bass moments, but again I will have to pull that one out and watch it again. I just picked up Back Sea. Any bass to be found in this one? Don't know anything about it, just sounded cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniHT Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 MemX, That's it! Thanks for digging that one up, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manninen Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Could someone measure this. Holly cole -Train song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemX Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 MemX, That's it! Thanks for digging that one up, man. No worries, I was intrigued and it was more fun finding it than doing work at work lol I will have to re-listen to that scene - I'm certain I'm not getting the full effect but will check! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nube Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Black Sea (5.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 3 Stars (108.65dB composite)Extension - 2 Stars (22Hz)Dynamics - 5 Stars (30.96dB) Execution - 3 Stars (by poll) Overall - 3.25 StarsRecommendation - Rent (by poll) PvA: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nube Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Mission Impossible (DD 5.1 @ 640KBPS) Level - 1 Star (103.37dB composite)Extension - 1 Star (34Hz)Dynamics - 5 Stars (30.38dB) Execution - 1 Star (by poll) Overall - 2 StarsRecommendation - Rent (by poll) Notes: This track is clipped, which is shocking given its low levels. PvA looks about like we might expect, and the corresponding sound also matches this film's age. PvA: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nube Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Mission Impossible II (DD 5.1 @ 640KBPS) Level - 2 Stars (105.54dB composite)Extension - 1 Star (27Hz)Dynamics - 5 Stars (27.62dB) Execution - 1 Star (by poll) Overall - 2.25 StarsRecommendation - Rent (by poll) Notes: This track is also clipped. PvA: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nube Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Mission Impossible III (DD 5.1 @ 640KBPS) Level - 1 Star (104.31dB composite)Extension - 5 Stars 1Hz)Dynamics - 5 Stars (27.9dB) Execution - 3 Stars (by poll) Overall - 3.5 StarsRecommendation - Tossup Notes: This track is again clipped, but starts out with full bandwidth content. Surprisingly, there is a fair amount below 20Hz throughout. Nothing very hot, though, aside from those 1-5Hz spikes. PvA: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nube Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Here's the 4.75 Star MI4 - Ghost Protocol for comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nube Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Eragon (5.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 3 Stars (109.55dB composite)Extension - 2 Stars (20.3Hz)Dynamics - 5 Stars (30.25dB) Execution - 3 Stars (by poll) Overall - 3.25 StarsRecommendation - Tossup Notes: Many of the effects are full bandwidth. It's a shame the movie is so bad, because the book was decent. That spike at 34Hz is clipped. PvA: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredhead Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Could someone measure this. Holly cole -Train song The bass player is wacky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saginawjuggalo Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Holly Cole - Train Song [Audacity reading] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaeel Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Agreed^^ I haven't seen this in a while, but I remember the word "dynamic" came to mind when I watched it as well. One of my favorite scenes for bass is actually one that's never really talked about. It's after the very first gunshot, in the very beginning. It lasts from after that first gunshot all the way until he meets Beatrice in the diner. My chairs sway back and forth.. and it's not all that subtle if you listen at reference. It feels like I'm sitting on JELLO. I remember seeing a graph over at the other site.. it was "blips" of 3-6hz iirc with nothing else going on. Very, very cool stuff.. It gave that very ominous, "sense of doom" kind of feeling for me. Would love to see that part graphed if anyone has the chance.. Hey I checked this scene out after you posted and at reference with the subs 15db hot I still got nothing from this scene. I have roll off below 10hz and although the content was there just nowhere near anything to feel it. My amp was barely flickering too which means it didn't see much there. Curious what gear you were running and how hot your subs were to feel that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuxedocivic Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Anyone watch American sniper? Is it a Lone Survivor type flick, or am I just relating the war/navy seal thing more than it actually is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 I plan on watching it soon, but I can't say I have been in my HT watching a film, doing any BEQ, or anything LFE-related in nearly a month....too busy. JSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wth718 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Anyone watch American sniper? Is it a Lone Survivor type flick, or am I just relating the war/navy seal thing more than it actually is? It has elements of that, but not as laser focused on the action as LS. Scenes not as well done, either, but other than Saving Private Ryan, not many war films compare. Bass is nothing to write home about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuxedocivic Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Ok thanks. I'll probably rent it anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniHT Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Hey I checked this scene out after you posted and at reference with the subs 15db hot I still got nothing from this scene. I have roll off below 10hz and although the content was there just nowhere near anything to feel it. My amp was barely flickering too which means it didn't see much there. Curious what gear you were running and how hot your subs were to feel that? Madaeel (Adam?) I am currently running 3 JTR Cap S2s in ~840 cubes on a suspended wooden floor. I want to say when I ran this scene I may have been 3-5dB hot but I know it wasn't more than that because I always listen to new movies at reference, and the bass becomes overwhelming (to me) if I go much more than that. Typically, I run flat. From memory, it was a quick "shutter" and then quickly transitioned to a "rolling" or "wobble" sensation. It was just a neat feeling. The "wobble" was quite a bit less pronounced than the "shutter", but was definitely present. My FR begins to roll off at ~5hz and iirc ~5dB down at 4hz. Measured with a calibrated CSL UMM-6 and REW. I'm at work right now and don't have the graph handy, but could provide it if you like. I think I'll take this over to your thread to see if Bosso or MK or the other bass junkies on this site get anything out of it. Besides, I've been meaning to congratulate you on your Raptors since day one... I don't think I ever popped in to say, Hello. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossobass Dave Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Hey I checked this scene out after you posted and at reference with the subs 15db hot I still got nothing from this scene. I have roll off below 10hz and although the content was there just nowhere near anything to feel it. My amp was barely flickering too which means it didn't see much there. Curious what gear you were running and how hot your subs were to feel that? Must be a different mix/disc than the rental I used when it was first released. I would have noted it and probably graphed it. Even the peak hold Nube graphed doesn't show that content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaeel Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Yah I was thinking that. I figured you woulda loved that and never remembered anyone else mentioning it either. The content is there just VERY low levels. Definitely not anything like the cap showed off the disc. Curious what disc was used too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdasterly Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Ive been following this site for a while now, finally signed up. ULF is getting deeper and deeper, watched jupiter ascending and had to turn down buttkicker amp at least 4 times. Bottomed out big time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigen Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Could you please add Paddington to your list. Or just measure the earthquake scene as the rest of the movie is void of bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniHT Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Must be a different mix/disc than the rental I used when it was first released. I would have noted it and probably graphed it. Even the peak hold Nube graphed doesn't show that content. Hmm.. could be.. I'll have to revisit this scene again this weekend and report back. It's literally been a year or two since I've seen it. You have me doubting myself, Dave. If there's one man on earth that could reproduce it, it'd be you. I do live in south Jersey though.. maybe Chris Christie was hobbling along outside my house during the scene. I will admit though, it didn't feel as hot as that graph indicates... which would put it somewhat close to the lightning strike scene in WOTW as far as level goes.. no way it's anywhere near that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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