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Infrasonic

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  1. Yes of course I did. Although I was using the Omnimic system, if that counts. Noting this, "fine tuning" my riser system had more to do with feel than how it measured audibly. Trial, error and time listening to (feeling?) actual program material is a major part of the process. It's just not very scientific sounding.
  2. Will do. I do know that the Xcurve is not baked into the actual mix. This EQ is part of the calibration of the system in the room itself. Not apart of the mix. "compared to how things work for music (no standards) and "home mixes.." Well... now see. That's the problem. You're conflating issues that exist across a varying multitude of different circumstances, layouts, equipment, expectations, etc. What can be applied as good methods for one market will not yield identical results in another. You're probably going to go on a long thing about inroom response and different attenu
  3. While this is true I wouldn't use this as any kind of metric to justify anything less capable. You know.... unless you have to.
  4. I'd have to double-check with my friend but... I think the X-curve is no longer a thing in modern cinema mixes. Afaik, that stopped in the 90's/2000's when sound started being delivered in uncompressed PCM. We have better screen materials these days and better compression horn technology.
  5. Yeah. It's definitely been his MO since TDKR. Hey... don't think I don't agree with you. But if that's what the guy wanted it to sound like, who am I to argue? Well.... that's a good question! Let's argue about it. Usually this particular subject revolves back to dialog intelligibility and Nolan has had plenty of very mainstream news about that sort of thing with all his past movies since TDKR. Christopher Nolan is excellent at story telling but dude-bro needs to get his hearing checked or something.
  6. Well.... it was intense. As A/V nerds we may scoff at the thought of this Satan-bred, pure-evil stuff called "clipping" but like it or not, it did have the desired effect. It's fucking loud. It's harsh. I'd imagine it was on that beach...and in all the various marine vessels...and in the Spitfires being shot at. All his films are mixed like this. Would expect nothing different from Nolan.
  7. Nothing to be ashamed of. A flat PvA is no indication at all that the rest of the mix will sound good whatsoever.
  8. Honestly, I use Bose bluetooth around-the-ear headphones. I like the convenience.
  9. Better late than never. Now you get to move them.
  10. Were they attached to sharks, at least? Yes, indeed. I'm sure there is a good reason why they chose this specific driver for the task. But also... ...wasn't this an under-hung driver? IIRC, the sealed version of this system used an over-hung version of the driver. Should definitely change some paramters... ...but just doesn't seem like an optimal driver for the alignment. Welcome to DB, ITR. Good stuff.
  11. Interesting. What device was used to derive those parameters, ITR?
  12. I knew there was a reason I liked you. Ehhh.... soundwise, wah? It's a riser. Just make sure to uhh....do whatever SME says with the "sealed" and all that stuff.
  13. Heheh. Yeah, maybe! Me too. I don't understand all the things that are going on. Thanks. While I do have a lot of woofer power in my room. The single dual 18 riser swamps the output of the rest of the subs. At least in regards to overall intensity and tactile-ness. I doubt "room gain" has any impact on the tactile-ness of the riser. I think it would be just as tactile outside in a field. EQ does have an effect, yes. I didn't have to do much at all. The "response" (going by feeling) was always adequate, as far as I could tell. Got really into it when I got wrapped up i
  14. You're probably right. Though I never felt ULF effects like that on several other similarly capable nearfield systems. Some even more powerful than mine.
  15. What I mean is trying to attain a finished product with a "F3 of something..." will be irrelevant because that F3 you simulated will no longer be the actual inroom F3. The riser will extend down as low as your electronics and displacement allow.
  16. Simulated F3's and net Q numbers are irrelevant in this case. You will cross low (your stated intention was 30hz and down) and will likely use EQ. Anything between .577 and .8 is fine.
  17. Very little. Of course you can feel some vibration while standing on the "floor" of the riser but it is insignificant compared to what is felt while sitting on the futon. It very much does. The mattress and any one on it. Some ULF effect are not unlike this: More motion when sitting.
  18. Imho, all the specifics of attaining some ideal F3 are not so useful in this case. It's of my opinion that the real factor to consider is the momentum or inertia of the transducer. Because these will allow you to physical couple yourself to the bass you don't have to look at SPL numbers, alone. Because it really doesn't tell you all you need to know. What I'm about to say is worth discussion in it's own thread but for maximum sensation in the lowest frequencies, frequency response will not tell you how well you feel and perceive said frequencies. I've seen and been in lots of theaters that mea
  19. Ah... nice! EDIT: And now including the FV18. Even better.
  20. Of tactile transducers, I mostly agree with this post. Crowson's are by far the most "natural" feeling transducer system I've ever experienced. Best way I could describe them is that they felt like sitting on a subwoofer (in a good way). BK's tend to be a big heavy-handed in their effect, mostly. I can only think of one or two times I thought the BK integration was seamless enough that I wouldn't have guessed that they were BK's. So I think with the right setup BK's can be alright too. They are certainly cheaper than Crowson's. Another cool thing about Crowson's that justify's their highe
  21. It's hard to say for sure but I can say that I like the sensation (with ULF) more with my subwoofer riser than any other nearfield sub while firing into the back of a chair. It should also be mentioned that most people's systems I've experienced (with TT's) have had 'theater style' seats or a Laz-E-Boy type chair. My seating is a futon couch that actually uses a full bed mattress as the cushion. This of course will affect how the transfer for bass will feel from one room/system to another. Not to forget that settings for how these are configured to the system will vary wildly. These alone can
  22. After experiencing A LOT of HT systems with either: nearfield subwoofer (of various capability), Buttkickers, Crowsons... and combinations of such, they all have their pro's and con's. If you need those listed, I can do so but... I don't think you came in here looking for a run down on what is the "best tactile transducer". There really is no "this is bad, go with this instead" approach. Going from your description of your system and what you want, I'd recommend a simple sealed subwoofer-based riser. It sounds like that was your original plan. Might as well act on it. Transducers ar
  23. I run a subwoofer riser with dual 18's. The internal volume is approximately 12cuft or so, sealed. My 18's are similar to the Ultimax18's. I use the subwoofer riser to augment the ultra low frequencies although I can and have used it "full range" and in the full bandwidth of the LFE channel. What exactly are you going for? There is a lot of loaded questions in your post.
  24. Had not got T5 yet on video but will eventually. People love to poop on Michael Bay and T5 has serious issues but in a hobby for A/V..... T5 brings it. Interested in the Atmos track and if it is (better be) a remarkable improvement from T4's barely-Atmos track. And yes... let's bring back the days when 20hz was cool cuz it still is, imho.
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