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Many people has high order enclosures, wonder anyone took different approach? multiple drivers

cheap decent drivers like faital 18fh500 or bms 18s430v2 100l sealed and whole front wall covered with them like 20pc.

If not enough cover rear wall too. faital cost like 149€ and i believe bms could be around 200€

Any thoughts?

Voxengo looks like basic rta. Arta has dual channel too, shows live phase.

I´ll bet many high order systems has shitty tune cause they need  delay above too. might not notice on watching movies but listening music it shows up

i use smaart to get harder system set up. car audio is impossible set up well without dual channel fft. speakers above my 6th order bandpass needed 12.9ms delay.

i think many systems are 0.5 cycles off

https://www.thomann.de/fi/turbosound_ts_18sw700_8a.htm

How ´bout this, 9pc costs 1400€. 3P3S =5ohms.

Not enough? time for second 9 patch

https://mag-cinema.com/image/catalog/Cinema/MAG-THOR.pdf

looks decent

knock knock

who´s there?

it´s 2020, we want to see M-force

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7605074/

Guys, measure this!

Any bass in Bird Box? you should blindfold yourself and turn it to 0db? :)

Were there graph from Blade runner 2049 yet?

ok compared to 12"

http://www.gascaraudio.com/produkter/comp32extreme?lang=en

• VAS: 990.3763L
• Qts: 0,4431
• Fs: 18.99Hz

Reasonable size 0.5Q sealed box

not bass but has la la land been measured? i watched it +10db over basic "transformers", felt overkill dynamics

just buy them m-forces or 21" ipals and drive them paraller

godspeed neighbour, im home

i hope someday you find M-force to test for.

waiting to see M-force in a proper 44hz tapped horn in car DbDrag scene too, of course one m-force cant beat 10pc 18"

around 4000euros

is it more than M-force?

http://ground-zero-audio.com/components/com_jshopping/files/demo_products/Germanator_2017.pdf

here is the one to test for

Twin Peaks S03E08 around 20minutes is quite low´ish

not mine sorry

http://avforum.no/forum/diy-do-it-yourself-/139036-bygging-av-othorn-med-speakers-ipal-21-a-2.html

from norway of course

text says during testing neigbour from 500meter noticed glasses vibrating and came to see whats happening

pete´s dragon?

graph for the legend of tarzan?

batman vs. superman. okay, all the dogs in the 2floor up started to bark on first minutes.

lots of 20-30ish hz

i dont like the way batman went after Bale

Maybe just too comi-con for me the whole thing as a movie

If you look into Ipal AES convention paper, you can see that it "can be matched to any high performance low frequency high excursion transducer, even though it's performance can be maximized if used in conjunction with some specific transducer" and I believe being a matter of cost and profit, it isn't always the best choice to make the best one can do, because for 3 dB extra, it is better for them if you buy an extra box than to spend more to use the best driver.

I never opened a MLX sub so I cannot know, but they definitely use the Ipal module controlled by their own software

Yes that 2012 spare driver quote is incorrect, martin audio online list says 2ohm for the DLS18002  Driver.

ipals are hard to find/expensive US imports here in europe, im using BMS 862´s and getting them some more because of england situation, 862 costs 423£

Martin audio MLX says its 8ohm driver

"DLS18002 18" Driver 8 ohm MLX £1,083.00"

https://martin-audio.com/downloads/datasheets/MLXspec.pdf

8ohm B&C ipal 18"?