lilmike

Watched this the other night. I agree, not bad, but not great. Couple physics fails that just didn't need to be there. Nowhere near my favorite of the franchise. Audio-wise? Even with the new LCRs, I turned this one up a lot louder than typical, after a peek at the SpecLab plot, I understand why. Bass was there when called on, certainly not overpowering. Nothing all that objectionable, but not a fantastic soundtrack either. Regarding dynamic range? I can't understand why they see the need for such limits, there's no limitation inherent in the format or the media. Sorta sad.

I have a CNC and I'm jealous. Of course, mine is wee-tiny when compared to that monster. Wow...

The whole system was in a closet at the back of the room. I got there quickly, but wasn't able to save the sub and amp. Not that great a loss, but still. I still worry about my Media PCs flaking out on me, but I still rely on them. I just don't use them to do the DSP stuff too. Heck, any more, my AVR can handle nearly all I need. I kicked around UltimateEQ for a while, decided against that for now. Have had no luck at all with JRiver. For now, DSP is in the iNuke, or in the MiniDSP. Have some FreeDSP kits to play with one of these days too. I hear you wrt the code internally. Less code means less to go wrong. The typical DSP runs a dedicated code set that is hopefully designed to fail gracefully. A typical HTPC? Who knows? I've run lots of different flavors, some have been robust, some are absolute disasters. I think it was MediaPortal on Windows XP that baked the sub, but that was a long time ago. For frontends now, I'm typically running some flavor of Kodi on Linux, but I am still churning through things to find the right combination of what I am after.

Really... That was one of the first ones I tried, I must have screwed something up somewhere along the way.

My pair of 12s and I will just sit over here at the kids table...

This. Times eleventy bazillion. I had an early home theater PC go nuts on me. Was not a pleasant noise. The sub made some awful noises, then some smoke. Killed the driver and the plate amp. My main speakers survived, but that was before I had any sort of real power on tap. I'll run hardware DSP, not going to take that chance with software.

There just aren't a lot of low Qes drivers that also happen to be low inductance and cheap. Wonder why??? I've been looking for years, they just aren't out there. When I get to messing with HornResp again, I will try a few drivers on my short list and see what we get.

Priorities man, I had a couple seasons of "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo" recorded, I just finished the last season of "Jersey Shore".

"my new, experimental, patent pending, rotary, quadratic, bi-phase, 10th order, sub-harmonic re-accumulator cabinet" LOL! Fair bit of information overload there plus the fact that my schedule is just slammed right now. Throw a work PC that is all sorts of cranky into the mix and I am way behind where I am supposed to be. I have so many ideas I want to try when it comes to subs, but they're all still on hold. I HAVE to build some temporary furniture pieces, then there's still the fact that I have no railings on my stairways (any of them...). We're hosting a Christmas party in 3 weeks, and those two are just the start of the list of things I need to finish up. Good times.

Any progress on that 8 Hz HT18 horn? I just bought a sheet and a half of plywood, that should be enough, right? Thanks for all the insights Josh. I'll re-read things when I have a bit more time.

The FreeDSP seemed like it was worth a try. I haven't put mine together yet (just like everything else that's theater-related), but have been playing with the software as I have some free time. I also have a MiniDSP that I can compare with. Was thinking I would just feed the same biquads into each and measure the outputs. Don't hold your breath waiting though.

I can also apply some pre-EQ to kill the out of band stuff without too much trouble. I am still working on figuring out how to smooth the response as much as possible through cabinet design, anything I can do to minimize the amount of EQ that I need to apply is a good thing. Have you had any experience applying the MSO solutions to a FreeDSP? I've just started messing with SigmaStudio, but haven't found a way to directly enter biquads yet. Looks like I found it! Nevermind! There is a 2nd order IIR Coefficient filter buried in the menus of the General 2nd order filter.

Hi Andy, thanks for stopping by. Huge thanks for your efforts with MSO. I have a bit more theater to build before I can put it to work, but I am a lot closer than I was.

If your DATS works, by all means, use it. Mine has become a random number generator, and nothing I've tried to date has fixed it.

That or just make a simple measurement jig and use REW. There's no reason to measure impedance manually any more, there just isn't. Even if you do that sort of thing for fun.

Oh, I tried them. I did my homework. I have exchanged emails with Mulcahy and the PE tech guys. I really wanted mine to work, because when it does, it is quick and easy. I do know a fair bit about setting up measurement gear and working with Windows audio. I've used lots of different gear. DATS doesn't measure up. There is a reason that TrueAudio/Dayton revised the DATS hardware as well as the software (V2 isn't the same as V1). They didn't do it for grins, there are real stability problems with V1. Mine has become a freaking random number generator. I talked to PE about it, all they want to do is sell me another DATS at MSRP. Thanks guys, I'll pass on that. I'd roll those dice at $40, not $100. I already bought the software upgrade...didn't help.

Um, what he said. Really. Man, with the rest of the gear you have, skip the DATS, spend a little more and get something that works. http://www.woofertester.com/ $160. Plug and play, solid performance, and accurate. I have all kinds of ways to measure impedance. DATS, WT2, LIMP, SoundEasy, and REW, to start. The DATS collects dust, and pretty much has since I purchased it. I had the O.G. Peak Instrument Woofer Tester way back when and used that for YEARS. Only reason I got the WT2 was the desire to have something that worked in Windows. LIMP came along because ARTA does things the WT2 can't, and I needed to go there. SoundEasy? A friend strongly recommended it, I'm still learning what I can do with it. For checking cabinets though? The WT2 is the first thing that gets connected after my ohmmeter. If I didn't have the WT2, I'd use ARTA, SoundEasy, or REW with a simple homemade test jig. DATS just doesn't work for me anymore. DATS sorta worked with W7, but it was squirrley. Now that I'm on W10, I can't get the DATS to calibrate properly or even measure the same driver (or resistor) repeatably. I'm not impressed with it at all. My settings are correct. I've tried updating to the latest software (for even more $$$), still no joy. At this point, I'm done wasting time and money on it. The DATS was an impulse buy from PE several Black Fridays ago, and I have pretty much regretted it since. Basically, mine is a useless piece of junk.

You can also wire your resistors in parallel, you'll get a lower resistance and higher power handling.

"Cables copper ones" LOLOL! Um, yeah Scott, think there's room for a few more speakers in there, I can see a couple blank spots on ceiling and side walls. You happy with the Yamaha? I'm looking at picking one up.

Open invites to both of ya!

Fantastic! Thanks for making the effort and taking the time to do this.

Build thread? Ain't nobody got time for that..... Odds are I'll ask a few questions here and there along the way, but I'm not so good at the build thread approach.

Yeah, currently my whole system is in transition, I don't even have an AVR at the moment cause I just sent mine off for warranty repairs. It all got moved last weekend, but it is not all in the same building yet. I have a LOT going on with trying to get the new place finished up. Lots of changes coming, lots of changes.

Can't find a solid 8 that's happy in a tapped horn, so I stepped up to a 10. Once I get one built and tested, I'll post it up here.

Oh man, I would love those amps. There's just no way for me to even consider them at the moment though, I still have a LOT of house to finish paying for.