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  1. nube
    Earth to Echo (5.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 5 Stars (112.99dB composite) Extension - 3 Stars (18Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (30dB) Execution - 4 Stars (by poll) Overall - 4.25 Stars Recommendation - Rent (by poll) PvA:
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    Scott Pilgrim BEQ is shockingly good. Those guys know how to mix a film and leave very little on the table, besides extension...which the BEQ fixes handily.
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    Snowpiercer (5.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 4 Stars (110.66dB composite) Extension - 4 Stars (10Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (29.04dB) Execution - 4 Stars (by poll) Overall - 4.25 Stars Recommendation - Rent (by poll) Notes: This is a semi-interesting movie, with pretty good bass content. I don't recall it being over the top (viewed the disc some months ago), but it had good effects and use of bass in several places. The movie will appeal to some, and turn off others. (In my best Sam Jackson voice) It's The Hunger Games on a Motherfuckin' Train.
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    I measured it several months ago. Lemme post that now!
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    That's a start, for sure. Send a PM to the respective parties if you need more help. I have it measured, at least the one from Netflix. I'll post it when it's position is up in the backlog of measurements.
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    The Matrix BassEQ version is a definite improvement, but you'll likely notice it increases the ULF hum that's present in all the scenes where they're on the Nebuchadnezzar. Otherwise, a great reversal of the studio's filtering on this one!
  7. nube
    Edge of Tomorrow (7.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 5 Stars (113.59dB composite) Extension - 5 Stars (9Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (27.61dB) Execution - 5 Stars (by poll) Overall - 5 Stars Recommendation - Buy (by poll) Notes: The tones at the beginning are the highest level single tones I've seen in a movie. If you have a commercial sub, or are gain matched, you'll probably be fine playing them at your normal levels. If not, and especially if you run subs hot or have ported/IB subs without a strong HPF, be careful at the beginning. Lots of unfiltered content below 20Hz that gets masked in the graphs by those tones, but it's there. Very good sound design overall, with only a little bit of clipping. Mostly it's carefully limited, as seen in the waveforms below. This is an example of being able to get the most out of the track when designing and mixing. Very good movie. PvA: Clipping & Waveforms:
  8. nube
    Max Payne (5.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 5 Stars (113.13dB composite) Extension - 2 Stars (24.2Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (27.61dB) Execution - 4 Stars (by poll) Overall - 4 Stars Recommendation - Rent (by poll) Notes: Loud, but not low. Significantly filtered at somewhere around 27Hz. PvA:
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    Jurassic Park III (7.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 4 Stars (110.42dB composite) Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz) Dynamics - 4 Stars (26.92dB) Execution - 4 Stars (by poll) Overall - 4.25 Stars Recommendation - Rent (by poll) Notes: While technically a 5 star movie for extension, it's really got a -10dB point of around 17Hz. Jurassic-sized hump in the response for those Jurassic footsteps. PvA:
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    The Lost World: Jurassic Park (7.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 4 Stars (110.55dB composite) Extension - 1 Star (27Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (28.94dB) Execution - 4 Stars (by poll) Overall - 3 Stars Recommendation - Buy (by poll) Notes: A Jurassic-sized filter on this one. PvA:
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    Don't Be Afraid of the Dark (5.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 2 Stars (107.09dB composite) Extension - 2 Stars (24Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (35.07dB) Execution - 2 Stars (by poll) Overall - 2.75 Stars Recommendation - Rent (by poll) Notes: Amazing dynamics, but significantly filtered, and not really a bass movie. That one effect going to 25Hz is reused several times throughout the movie, at various levels. PvA:
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    Death Race: Inferno (5.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 5 Stars (114.9dB composite) Extension - 5 Stars (7Hz) Dynamics - 3 Stars (24.91dB) Execution - 3 Stars (by poll) Overall - 4 Stars Recommendation - Avoid (by poll) Notes: Most of the effects don't go below 15Hz with authority, but there are a few that dig to 5-7Hz. Look at those levels!! Unfortunately, clipping across the LCR + LFE are present with those high levels. This whole series is very bad, and I don't recommend watching. PvA:
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    Death Race 2 (5.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 4 Stars (111.33dB composite) Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz) Dynamics - 4 Stars (26.87dB) Execution - 4 Stars (by poll) Overall - 4.25 Stars Recommendation - Rent (by poll) Notes: From the outset, this one has effects on screen that are coupled with significant bass below 20Hz. Many of the effects seem reused, as their specific signatures are seen throughout the measurements. PvA:
  14. nube
    Death Race (5.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 3 Stars (108.19dB composite) Extension - 1 Star (32Hz) Dynamics - 3 Stars (24.78dB) Execution - 3 Stars Overall - 2.5 Stars Recommendation - Rent PvA:
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    Sorry about not posting the latest measurements, but my new job is kicking my ass and they lock down all internet access, so no posts during the day. I don't even have cell service there...it's like a bunker out at the AFB. But, fear not, measurements have been made and I'll find time to post in the next few days. EOT good unfiltered bass, haven't watched yet. Maleficent good unfiltered bass (blew one of my amps on it, in fact, but it's not THAT good...just random amp failure), but only a fair movie if you have kids. gdffgdfgd, For now, just host them on an image site like photobucket, and use the "Image" button at the top to link to the direct URL that the image site gives you for posting, not the IMG tag url.
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    Check the Google Docs linked in the first post for all the "Requests" and what I currently have measured but have yet to post.
  17. nube
    All maxmercy and my graphs are the actual retail lossless Blu-ray disc's mix, unless otherwise noted.
  18. nube
    True! Man, I'm slipping these days.
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    I think anywhere works to ask questions. That's an interesting looking scene - great extension, but hard to tell what the real levels are. Wish it was on Blu-ray here in the USA. Some notes: You're running it too hot. If you're measuring the digital mix, and not measuring the output from your AVR or disc player, then you don't need to bump levels with an offset at all. That's how maxmercy does scenecaps, and it's the purist's way - SpecLab will present exactly what's on the disc at exactly the levels they're mixed at. I add an offset just to get nice colors that match the old way people used to do it, but it's important not to overemphasize them too. There are almost no scenes in any movie that are hot enough to show up as all purple, or even close to it. In fact, the loudest effect typically found in any movie mix is -12dBFS, or thereabouts. That's because the mixers have to leave room in the mix for other frequencies in the entire bandwidth.
  20. nube
    Just went back to Godzilla very briefly to check out the 0:50:00 - 0:59:30 mark that shows tons of clipping on the graph, and it's just downright atrocious. It's pretty egregious, and it's ALL audibly harsh, distorted, and/or crunchy sounding. I'm guessing that all the big effects are clipped throughout the whole movie, if that scene is any indication. I'm glad I didn't pay too much attention the first time we viewed it because I would have been a lot more denigrating of the perfect audio scores this mix has received all over the internet. At this point we've conclusively disproven the following assertions made by paid review sites: Godzilla's mix has very deep bass extension. It's doesn't. It's just loud. Godzilla's mix is very dynamic. It's not. It's just loud. Godzilla's mix is crystal clear, reference quality audio. It's not. It's just loud. I think this stuff proves that even the pro reviewers think louder = better. Sad, really.
  21. nube
    Dave, Thanks for the gorgeous scenecaps! Everything is graphed from the frame of dBFS of the disc. From the first post, and I'm not sure if this is what you're asking for, but: Content is ranked according to the following categories: Level - This is an average composite of the largest instantaneous peak (128dB possible on 7.1 content, 126dB on 5.1 content), the largest RMS peak (125ms window, maximum is 128dB with 0dBFS Square Wave on all channels in 7.1), and the overall RMS level of the entire piece. Star Ratings as follows: 5 Stars - >112.5dB 4 Stars - 110-112.5dB 3 Stars - 107.5-110dB 2 Stars - 105-107.5dB 1 Star - <105dB Extension - This is the -10dB point of the piece, or 'how low does it go'? By reviewing both the Peak and Average Traces on the PvA graph (see below), we will use the lower of the two for the extension value, in Hz. Star Ratings as follows: 5 Stars - <10Hz 4 Stars - 10-15Hz 3 Stars - 15-20Hz 2 Stars - 20-25Hz 1 Star - >25Hz Dynamics - This is a measure of the difference between the Instantaneous Peak Level and Average RMS Level of the piece, with Star Ratings as follows: 5 Stars - >27.5dB 4 Stars - 25-27.5dB 3 Stars - 22.5-25dB 2 Stars - 20-22.5dB 1 Star - <20dB Execution - This category is entirely subjective, and will usually be polled. More stars for what sounds better to you in the low frequency department.
  22. nube
    Godzilla (2014) (7.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 5 Stars (114.24dB composite) Extension - 2 Stars (21Hz) Dynamics - 4 Stars (25.17dB) Execution - 3 Stars (by poll) Overall - 3.5 Stars Recommendation - Rent (by poll) Notes: This is a decent reboot of the old & cheesy franchise. However, it suffers from the blockbuster Hollywood loudness wars. Mixers, probably at the behest of producers/directors, sometimes feel the need to "turn it to 11" at the expense of dynamics and extension. Godzilla suffers from that misconception. It has very loud bass, but it's almost all 30Hz and above. Without anything powerful below 30Hz, these giant monsters' footsteps feel weaker than the effect caused by closing your theater's door. This says nothing of the destruction and havoc they wreak on screen. All of it lacks the weight and impact that should accompany massive structures being destroyed. Just dialing back the obvious low shelf filter by 10Hz would have fixed this one. And, it's not a very dynamic track. Its dynamic range is compressed compared to many other big bass mixes we're seeing these days, which has the effect of making the big scenes seem less loud overall. I think this might have been impacted to a degree by the sound team's reuse of some generic bass effects throughout the movie. Long story short - yes, it's loud on average. Yes, it sounds good on your ported subs, so you'll probably love it. And, really, that's all that matters - whether or not you liked it. But, here we're passionate about bass, and we want it to be amazing. This is a one trick pony mix, and by no means is it amazing. It doesn't feel convincing compared to many other movies. For instance, when thinking about VERY LARGE & POWERFUL things on screen, consider the impact each of these films had in your theater and then tell me which one's overall bass mix you prefer: I know which scared the crap out of me, and it wasn't Godzilla. That's not to say it's bad; it's just not close to the true MONSTER it could have been. EDIT: maxmercy did a clipping analysis and found that the people who thought this was rough sounding were right: it clips pretty terribly. PvA:
  23. nube
    Domino (5.1 TrueHD) Level - 3 Stars (109.45dB composite) Extension - 2 Stars (22Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (27.92dB) Execution - 3 Stars (by poll) Overall - 3.25 Stars Recommendation - Rent (by poll) Notes: Steeply filtered starting at 30Hz. Lots of really loud effects centered there, tho. PvA:
  24. nube
    Die Another Day (5.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 3 Stars (107.72dB composite) Extension - 1 Star (25.1Hz) Dynamics - 5 Stars (28.58dB) Execution - 2 Stars (by poll) Overall - 2.75 Stars Recommendation - Rent (by poll) PvA:
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    Brick Mansions (5.1 DTS-HD MA) Level - 3 Stars (108.29dB composite) Extension - 2 Stars (24.5Hz) Dynamics - 4 Stars (26.9dB) Execution - 3 Stars (by poll) Overall - 3 Stars Recommendation - Rent (by poll) PvA:
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