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  1. I wouldn't watch the whole film again, don't mind trying some specific scenes though. >> Did you implement the JRiver coefficients that you posted here (what I'm calling "v1")? Or did you calculate new JRiver coefficients, based the updated "v2" config I posted afterwards? the v1 ones >> What playback level (approximately) did you use to evaluate? -7 >> How are your speakers calibrated? Do you use Acourate? And if so, what kind of target curve do you use for the high frequencies? Or did you use outdoor / anechoic polar response measurements? current target rises ~5dB from 125Hz down to 25Hz and is basically flat above that, the correction switches at about 900Hz to an anechoic only correction (based on measurements taken outdoor from 0-60 degrees). The speaker itself is maybe 1dB down from 1-16kHz on axis, graphs in http://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-diy-speakers-subs/2188265-attempting-3way-seos10.html#post54724444
  2. I gave the correction a try on a few scenes, bit of a mixed bag tbh. Effects noticed included; Voices in some scenes were more natural (less full/warm) though were also less obviously the focus of the scene. Some scenes took on a certain hollowness/metallic tang which was similar to a sound ISTR from one particular EQ which went wrong and was doing something excessive around 1kHz. Some scenes, which involved more ambient noise, were less engaging as if the track had receded into the distance. I tried ~4-5 scenes (a couple from the island stage, a couple from the later ww1 bit) and a few had fairly inconsequential differences, the 2 that stood out more were the scene in the castle when he tries to chat to the chemist (ambient voices as he walks up to her were receded, their voices were less pronounced but more natural) and the scene when the young diana is asking her mum to let her train and her mum is going on about moulding her out of clay (metallic tang). I'm afraid I couldn't trial this over a prolonged slice of film because I thought the film itself was borderline terrible which was a surprise given the reviews. I thought it had a bizarrely disjointed storyline that felt like they mashed 3 different films together and was at least 30mins too long. The love story angle was pretty sad too given the main character & the seriousness with which they played the film given the storyline was rather odd.
  3. Wonder Woman - corrected vs uncorrected - https://imgur.com/veQRiUG
  4. Wonder Woman - corrected vs pink noise - https://imgur.com/a/KptYn
  5. Wonder Woman (2017, BD / Atmos) - JRiver equivalent filters NB: I refer to it as S below to differentiate from the original post, jriver calls this Q though. measurement to verify shape -> https://imgur.com/a/05Ixe UHF / distance (relative to flat response; see note*): High Shelf: f0 = 13900.0; S = 0.442082; gain = -3.501 HF slope (see note **): High Shelf: f0 = 3140; S = 0.9997; gain = -2.0 High Shelf: f0 = 7750; S = 0.552885; gain = -2.0 EQ Peak: f0 = 1950; Q = 1.75; gain = +0.33 MF shelf: Low Shelf: f0 = 1000; S = 0.720521; gain = -1.25 LF shelf: Low Shelf: f0 = 265; S = 0.785708; gain = -4.0
  6. Nuttall I made the image a bit bigger and included pink noise spectrum as a reference curve for comparison - https://imgur.com/a/yxK3V If there is some other reference curve that would be better then let me know & I can update it. I'll get to the after pic tonight probably.
  7. This is the before C channel for Wonder Woman, I ran it through speclab with no decimation and 4096 fft length to give ~11Hz frequency resolution https://imgur.com/gIHjYdF
  8. OK, I'll pull that out for you. I do know how convert to jriver format filters. Are there any particular scenes (or segments of the film) I could use for this?
  9. I have wonder woman so can extract this for you with and without your correction on top if you like. Just post what you want to see and I will get to it over the next few days.
  10. have you tried Capt America Civil War? if not, I will give it a go. The LFE channel is a straight line rolloff on a linear scale on both avg and peak from 30Hz down so I guess that's a good sign (for a track that should yield some useful content)? https://imgur.com/87rzdnR
  11. The reason I suggested using MSO is because you have complete control over the parameter range for each filter and also complete control over how many filters, and what type, it can use. Combine this with smoothing of the response if necessary and I would have thought you'd end up with a smooth filter shape. re headroom, is it the summed result that is the concern? that seems a long time to wait for processing, what are you using for that?
  12. Removing the drivers will help alot IME as the weight will be more evenly distributed which makes them much less of a bear to manage (and also means the driver is safe if you do have an accident with the box)
  13. If the approach is based on a target curve which is based on other known good bass films then t seems like this should be amenable to automation, at least as a first cut anyway. For example, create a minimum phase representation of the actual response and a target curve, load into MSO and create a configuration that has a load of adjustable Q shelf filters & some PEQ available to it then give it some time to work out what combination of filters produces the target response.
  14. FWIW I used jriver convert format to generate the input wav file and then these are run through my app in a way that is equivalent to the approach used around here in speclab (which decimates it to 1000Hz and then runs it through the fft with a nuttall window of either 0.5Hz or 1Hz resolution, I forget which). I used a 0.5Hz resolution in my case, this is pretty much all done by scipy (for the fft bits) and librosa (for the resampling) I thought I'd double check so used eac3to to generate the wavs instead (though they both use the same underlying dts decoder anyway - https://github.com/foo86/dcadec), same result. If you get a different result then it would be interesting to know how you're performing that extraction and conversion.
  15. It is L R C LFE RL RR SL SR (which is pretty standard afaik)
  16. I notice (in that speaker shootout thread on avs) you commented about certain aspects of your room response being SBIR rather than modal in nature. I was curious to know what you meant by this. I suppose I am thinking of 2 specific question. What makes you say it is SBIR rather than modal? what practical difference has this made to your treatment strategy?
  17. it accepts biquads -> https://sourceforge.net/p/equalizerapo/wiki/Configuration%20reference/#filter
  18. I tried another one and got similar results, hacked together a multichannel wav with a sine wave at a different frequency for each channel and ran that through jriver then analysed it, result is a mono wav with a missing channel 4, i.e. no LFE channel in the output. I'm quite sure this used to work so will report over at jriver forum to see what is going on. edit: see https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,111023.0.html appears to be some random defect in this particular installation of jriver :| edit2: turns it out it is a bug in jriver - https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,111023.msg767472.html#msg767472
  19. dunno, I downmix using jriver as per http://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-subwoofers-bass-transducers/1333462-new-master-list-bass-movies-frequency-charts.html#post23468771 I just doublechecked the settings, recreated the mono wav and ran it through speclab and my app. I get the same result each time.
  20. @maxmercy how do you calculate [2]? I don't understand how the integration time relates to a single dB level for the entire track. The time window sounds like it relates to the length of each slice in the spectrogram but then how do you turn that into a single number?
  21. I haven't seen it yet, it's on my pile of things to watch, sounds like one to watch sooner rather than later though
  22. fwiw I finished off a new version of my app which includes the speclab style wav processing I mentioned a few posts back - see https://github.com/3ll3d00d/vibe/releases/tag/0.4.0for the windows exe (or http://vibe.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install.html#installing-the-analyser for linux). It should be easy enough for anyone to pick up and use.
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