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I'm just saying that I don't predicate whether a movie has a worthwhile soundtrack solely on the bass extension. For example I thought the soundtrack to Whiplash was excellent but there isn't anything crazy going on below 20Hz.

 

Pretty close match which doesn't bode well. It probably is a generic 30Hz rumble film. Hopefully it isn't clipped at least. I wouldn't call Avengers the biggest bass disappointment ever either. A letdown for sure but my vote for worst would be for 2012 or the Hobbit or even HTTYD2.

Agreed. I can think of three films/bass tracks that were more disappointing than Avengers. Hobbit 1, Revenge of the Sith and 2012. Not trying to defend Avengers since it was obviously disappointing, but the three I mentioned IMO are considerably more disappointing.

To say nobody cared or cares about the Hobbit films is also silly since there are obviously a lot of fans. Considering LOTR are 3 of my all time favorite films, I had high hopes for the Hobbit movies and even though they fell short to some degree (and certainly not on the level of LOTR), I still enjoyed them (especially parts 2 and 3). No doubt the low end WAS a letdown in all three of these movies, especially part 1 which would get my vote for most disappointing LFE movie ever.

On a different note, does anyone here who can measure have access to both the original Casino Royale PCM track and the collectors edition True HD mix? There has been some debate on AVS on whether or not these two mixes are the same and one is just mastered at a louder volume, or if they are in fact different mixes. Would be great to put this debate to rest!

Sorry but both Phantom and Clones will eat New Hope for breakfast when it comes to bass.

Exactly. Phantom and Clones are definitely the two best for bass out of the six films. Between those two, I have always been partial to Clones.

I will never forget watching 2012 on blu for the first time excited at the potential considering the material. I still consider it in the top 2 or 3 most disappointing LFE films ever with Hobbit part 1 and Revenge of the Sith being the other 2.

Man, I really liked the new Star Wars movie.

 

Same here! Saw it last night and me and the GF both thought it was excellent. Bass was weak in our theater, but I am hoping it was just the theater.

Any graphs for Polar Express anywhere? Curious about this one....

Thanks Max and looks like I was wrong on SA to some degree. Must have been the lacking dynamics that was leaving me a bit luke warm with this one.

Thanks for all the graphs Max!

Any chance you could graph San Andreas at some point? Not that the bass is anything special (it's LOUD, but not that deep subjectively), but I am more curious to see how bad this track clips (if it does). I found the audio on this one to be harsh to some degree and the overall sound design reminded me of STID which is not really a good thing! Track just seemed LOUD and compressed to my ears, but I could be wrong which is why I am curious to see it graphed if you get time at some point. No worries if not.

The new Terminator was a one and done for me. Bass was good, but not exceptional. Glad I rented.

Curious to see San Andreas measured. Watched last night and I might be wrong, but it reminded me of STID and not in a good way. The whole track just seemed LOUD and the bass extension was weak. The bass that was there was LOUD and hit in the right spots I thought, but it was a fatiguing audio track similar to STID to my ears. Cant speak to the Atmos effects as I just watched the core 7.1 TrueHD track.

Look again.  The graphic is wrong (old testing methodology), but the numbers are correct if you scroll down. 3 Stars for level.

 

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/12-the-low-frequency-content-thread-films-games-music-etc/page-11#entry323

Gotcha. Thanks!

So what is the verdict on ALVH DTS-HD-MA track on the blu ray? I did a quick search and is it really only a 1 star for level? Looks like Bosso got a different result......what was the verdict on this one? Thanks.

Agree with the last two posts! Interstellar was a fantastic HT experience. I didn't even notice the clipping (except maybe in the launch sequence, but it fit right in with the sound effect to me) and certainly nowhere near something like Godzilla. No issues hearing dialog here watching at reference.

Fairly certain that's what he means. Has a ton of bass, but also lots of clipping, both in the bass and in the voices. Some of it pretty bad.

Thanks for the report. Is the clipping Godzilla bad?

EoT= Evil overrated Track......evil because of that stupid, dangerous/sub threatening out of place opening scene. Nothing in EoT is as fun and impressive sound/LFE wise as the last ~15 minutes of BLA which leaves your jaw on the floor. Just my opinion.

Has Transporter 3 ever been measured? It won't be a 5 star track, but I would be curious to see the measurments since there is a fair bit of LFE.

I'm with you wth718. I've watched EoT three times now and it is very good, but not 5 star great IMO. BLA is flat out fantastic. By the time the credits hit in BLA, I am blown away, but by the time they hit in EoT I am left wanting.

Thanks Nube.

Nube, can you answer my Alien Abduction questions from the previous page? I believe you said you had this import?

Nube, I think you mentioned you have the import/blu ray of Alien Abduction? If so, is this the German version and is it region A compatible? TIA!

Look at the 54Hz spike (green) and the 29Hz spike (red).  It's the -10dB point on either red or green traces, whichever results in the better rating. 

 

 

I have the BR, and I'll measure the 5.1 DTS-HD MA mix in the near future.

Cool, thanks.

While only on DVD though Netflix (looks like you can buy the blu though Amazon), I would love to see the Alien Abduction DD 5.1 track measured. This track subjectively had quite a bit of loud ~10-15hz bass if I had to guess. Very curious to see it measured if you guys happen to get a chance. Thanks!

Heck yeah, bosso posted some graphs.  That movie is legit.  http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/284-bossobass-raptor-system-3/page-23-bottom of the page. 

 

Ninja Turtles Specs are on the following page posted by me if anyone is curious.

 

Thanks for the Turtles graphs. I thought after watching most the bass was centered in the 30-40hz range with some select scenes digging a bit deeper to 20hz or so which looks to be close looking at those graphs at least. Curious to see the full film put through the paces here.

Is turtles really filtered? i have to say i felt something very low around 1.29.30-1hour30min

A few moments like that sweep subjectively seemed to get down to around 20hz or so, but I don't think it goes much deeper than that. I am curious to see it graphed though. Even though not the deepest bass, I really enjoyed the low end on this track.

I'll wait for measurements to confirm, but I think TMNT has a steep 30 Hz filter.  What I heard was loud but definitely not low.  Even Godzilla had a better bottom end than this one.  I guess that makes this another loudness war victim.

Besides the lacking extension to some degree in TMNT, I thought the bass execution was excellent in relation to the on screen action and tone of the film. The audio in general sounded great to my ears, but I am curious to see it graphed as it definitely does not have the extension of the better bass films. VERY curious to check out the 3d now!

Curious to see that bass sweep as well which I think was during the jeep/avalanche scene? Again, not the deepest, but very impressive and effective in conjunction with the scene I thought.

The problem with renting EG is the rental disk only has DD 5.1 sound.

What I would love to know is if the DD is at least the same mix as the DTS-MA? It was suggested in the AVS thread by a poster that the lossy and lossless are commonly 2 different mixes which I have not seen much evidence of........is this true?

EG reminds me of Scott Pilgrim's PvA graph, with 20Hz as the shelving point instead of 15Hz for Pilgrim. I'll check it out when I can. Any idea on whether it is a good film or not?

 

JSS

The movie on it's own is VERY forgettable IMO. If you factor in the fantastic audio AND video though, it is one amazing HT experience that becomes a really fun escape for a few hours from my perspective. Opinions though just like ANY movie will vary depending on who you ask. Give it a rent and decide for yourself. Like all films, I have read opinions from "loved it" to "hated it" and everything in between.