Infrasonic Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Hell yeah, Adam. It was so awesome to finally meet you. Most all of us were running around back and forth here and there. We definitely needed more time to hang. There is always next time. I'll try and make it out to the east coast once or twice a year. Looks like the return of teh Popalock is already in the planning stages. Look out for that GTG, Adam. I'll be there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaeel Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 When Pop comes back we'll have to do a city block gtg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgage Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Hell yeah, Adam. It was so awesome to finally meet you. Most all of us were running around back and forth here and there. We definitely needed more time to hang. There is always next time. I'll try and make it out to the east coast once or twice a year. Looks like the return of teh Popalock is already in the planning stages. Look out for that GTG, Adam. I'll be there! I agree Scott. I really enjoyed hanging out with everyone. Everybody was beyond cool, nice, and knowledgeable. Absolutely can't wait for the RotPGTG but hope we get to enjoy a couple other GTGs between now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndersShadow Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Shredhead.... Once I get them built and measured I will gladly do that lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrapladm Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Enders I am building a, very slow in progress, Bosso raptor like dual 15HST. I will definitely be using Shred's Dash V with a NanoAVR for my setup indoors. So I look forward to hearing more about your progress also perhaps in another thread. Not sure when I will ever come back to visit family but hopefully in the next 2 years or less I will. Then hopefully make a detour to one of these amazing GTG's. Also Shredhead does your Dash V have stepped attenuators and is it 2 channel? You might have said this already, and I apologize if you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrodynamic Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I don't remember how many I had by this point but I had Infrasonic take a picture of me trying to make fierce love to the RF woofer: In all seriousness that is one high-tech driver. I was/am totally blown away by its design. Thanks again Ricci for bringing those RF's to the meet. Super neat to meet everyone and put faces with screen names. I keep forgetting as well as Brandon but the next time I go to a GTG I'm bringing name tags, haha. I picked Infrasonic up from the airport on Friday and he stayed at my house that night to get a little taste of the DO HST-11's and to get some sleep before we tied one on the next day and night. On Saturday we departed my place and headed up to Brandon's for the GTG. I brought the prototype CNC machine machined basket neo slug XBL^2 3" coil shallow mount BM mkV along with the DS4-18" 4 inch coil prototype and a group of voice coils for people to look at to get a gauge of coil sizes for different drivers. I brought the 2.5" diameter HT-18 coil, the 3" HS-24 coil, and the 100mm WW 4" BHS-24 coil. Brandon knocked it out of the park in every aspect including, but not limited to, the hospitality and also the food. Thankfully the BBQ place got most of his order correct the first time so he only had to go back and get the rest of his order once. Plenty of food...plenty of really good food. We ended up beating BEAST's HT-18's relentlessly throughout the day and night. I spent most of the time after lunch admiring Josh Ricci's exposed RF masterpiece. I really can't say enough good things about the design of that driver. The rest of the afternoon and night we contined to SpecLab scenes of various Blu Ray's and even MemX's revisions which were awesome. I have GOT to get me that demo disk that he brought to the GTG! Very cool stuff. Too much to remember but the GTG was epic as usual at Brandon's place. Great job Brandon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndersShadow Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I don't remember how many I had by this point but I had Infrasonic take a picture of me trying to make fierce love to the RF woofer: In all seriousness that is one high-tech driver. I was/am totally blown away by its design. Thanks again Ricci for bringing those RF's to the meet. I think its time for that to be the splash screen of your website... We dont just LOVE BASS... We MAKE LOVE TO BASS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndersShadow Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Enders I am building a, very slow in progress, Bosso raptor like dual 15HST. I will definitely be using Shred's Dash V with a NanoAVR for my setup indoors. So I look forward to hearing more about your progress also perhaps in another thread. Not sure when I will ever come back to visit family but hopefully in the next 2 years or less I will. Then hopefully make a detour to one of these amazing GTG's. Also Shredhead does your Dash V have stepped attenuators and is it 2 channel? You might have said this already, and I apologize if you have. Yup, I've been stalking your thread (oops did I say that) and once I get to building it there will be a thread on a couple of the sites we both frequent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredhead Posted November 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Chrap, no stepped attenuators. It would drive cost up too much and limit the options for EQ curves. The Dash V is meant to be as economical as possible without skimping on the quality of parts used. It's 1 channel. A friend of mine has a Rhythmic LV12R ported 12 and we hooked the Dash V up and plugged up the port. Ported at LP the sub is 3dB down at 22Hz and we extended that down to 14.7Hz using the Dash V and sealing it even with a high passed plate amp. Sounded all together tighter and blended better with the mains even with music with no content in the 20Hz range. The Dash V can also be used as an RCA to XLR active converter with an adjustable signal chain rolloff compensation starting as low as 10Hz gaining up to 4dB down to 2Hz with no rolloff. It has a master level control with line boosting up to 7dB on top of the 6dB the XLR brings. You can attenuate the level to the noise floor so having this last piece in front of your amps makes it pretty simple to perfectly nail the gain to your amp so you can maximize your dynamic range. Kind of difficult to explain without graphs so give me a couple of weeks and it will all make more sense. Enders: keep us posted on the build! Electro: hahahahahaahahahahaahahah!!!!!! I missed that one. I think you just out did Beast's sexy model pose on top of the original cab for the HS24 from the first GTG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SME Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 The reason I comment is that all, that I have noticed, D&M models seem to have the same specs on their analogue stage. This seems like a bit of evidence to suggest all their models have a similar capability. Alternatively I might be spotting a pattern where none exists perhaps if someone measured a midrange denon and it looked the same then that would make the case more strongly. I suspect this is true. I expect to measure my Denon 3313CI some time soon (a month?) and will post the results in the appropriate forum. I can already confirm from indirect measurement that it can put out at least 4V RMS cleanly on all the (RCA) outputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndersShadow Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Shred last question on the unit I promise lol... If doing dual subs would I need 2 of these? My AVR has 2 sub outputs and XT32 w SubEQ and the subs won't be equidistant from the MLP.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredhead Posted November 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 If the subs are the same kind you would most likely get away with Y-jacking the output to both sub amps and finding a curve to best suit MLP. Hard for me to say for sure without seeing a frequency response. If you want to use both sub Jacks out of your avr to play with different delays for the 2 subs then obviously you would need 2 Dash V's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I bet a lot of people will use the Dash-V just to overcome AVR rolloff, as it is an analog unit, it won't have the instability biquads do at very low freqs. When will they be available? JSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossobass Dave Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I bet a lot of people will use the Dash-V just to overcome AVR rolloff, as it is an analog unit, it won't have the instability biquads do at very low freqs. When will they be available? JSS Although the Dash V has all of the uses mentioned, it's primary purpose is for sealed system users to... I've added an amplifier page to the web site that details the maniacally hard work we've done this year putting together a wide array of power plant options. Spent scads o dough, tested, cooked, tossed, modded, tested and liked lots of candidates. Through all of that, Paul Frankensteined the Dash V. It is exactly what it's advertised to be. The SEQSS is a no-holds-barred high end analog signal shaper that's specifically designed for the Blackbird and Raptor systems, respectively. It has 9 preset transformed curves. Each curve is easily dialed in using 2 control knobs, 3 positions each. The Dash V is an infinitely variable parameters native sealed response transform device. Now you see why we call it the Dash V. Both units are flat to <3 Hz, quiet and have plenty of headroom to destroy your system without clipping the power supply rails and are very simple to operate with excellent results, not to mention astoundingly low priced. BTW, for anyone interested, Sealed EQ'd Signal Shaper was the working name-turned-acronym. The acronym is also pronounced SEX, phonetically, of course. SEX and Dash V. Hope this helps. I'll announce the new web site launch as soon as I have the shopping cart sorted out with the new hardware products. We've only just decided to do a production run of the Dash V, so the parts are being fabbed as I write and should be arriving in a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndersShadow Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Although the Dash V has all of the uses mentioned, it's primary purpose is for sealed system users to... I've added an amplifier page to the web site that details the maniacally hard work we've done this year putting together a wide array of power plant options. Spent scads o dough, tested, cooked, tossed, modded, tested and liked lots of candidates. Through all of that, Paul Frankensteined the Dash V. It is exactly what it's advertised to be. The SEQSS is a no-holds-barred high end analog signal shaper that's specifically designed for the Blackbird and Raptor systems, respectively. It has 9 preset transformed curves. Each curve is easily dialed in using 2 control knobs, 3 positions each. The Dash V is an infinitely variable parameters native sealed response transform device. Now you see why we call it the Dash V. Both units are flat to <3 Hz, quiet and have plenty of headroom to destroy your system without clipping the power supply rails and are very simple to operate with excellent results, not to mention astoundingly low priced. BTW, for anyone interested, Sealed EQ'd Signal Shaper was the working name-turned-acronym. The acronym is also pronounced SEX, phonetically, of course. SEX and Dash V. Hope this helps. I'll announce the new web site launch as soon as I have the shopping cart sorted out with the new hardware products. We've only just decided to do a production run of the Dash V, so the parts are being fabbed as I write and should be arriving in a couple of weeks. Thank you good sir! Thats what I was hoping it would do. Intriguing for sure, especially for the price...... I will look forward to reading some impressions on it when it truly hits the market! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ll3d00d Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Hope this helps. I'll announce the new web site launch as soon as I have the shopping cart sorted out with the new hardware products. We've only just decided to do a production run of the Dash V, so the parts are being fabbed as I write and should be arriving in a couple of weeks. looks like a handy piece of kit, a rackmount option would be a nice one to have (I assume the one shown is the actual seqss not another option for the v) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossobass Dave Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 looks like a handy piece of kit, a rackmount option would be a nice one to have (I assume the one shown is the actual seqss not another option for the v) Correct. Paul wanted the Dash V to be as affordable as possible, so rackmount was tossed. He's the driver for this product. Designed, assembled, Alpha tested, Beta tested, subjective SQ tested, measured and approved by Machine Head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastAudio Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 "6 user(s) are reading this topic" This might be a new Data-Bass record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infrasonic Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I don't remember how many I had by this point but I had Infrasonic take a picture of me trying to make fierce love to the RF woofer: Haha! In all seriousness though, I didn't take that picture. But every time you call I will see it from now on. Thanks, man for driving me about and letting me stay over. I enjoyed our weekend. Even enjoyed Bojangles a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmercy Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I would like a Dash V with XLR in as well as out if possible....but I know it may not be possible. JSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgage Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I would like a Dash V with XLR in as well as out if possible....but I know it may not be possible. JSS I concur with MaxMercy that it would be nice to have XLR in. Paul, when you have the Dash V ready, let me know as I'd like to test it with my subs and potentially stock it or recommend it to my customers. Looks like an outstanding solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgage Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Dave, it was great talking with you as well and I was glad I was able to talk you off the ledge. You look great and are doing great man! Really enjoyed our discussions. Paul - Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. I learned a lot from you at the previous GTG and this one was no different. Truly enjoyed hanging out. Should I look to buy the Rigol DS1054 oscilliscope or is there another one you'd recommend? Spencer - Enjoyed talking to the renaissance man himself. Great stories...we'll try to get more on video or pictures next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredhead Posted November 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Gage, this is a really good value that I would have hit up if it was available when I got my Rigol: http://www.circuitspecialists.com/hantek-100mhz-digital-storage-oscilloscope-dso5102p.html?otaid=gpl&gclid=CNqi2brcrMkCFYI7aQodNTEBmg Max, of course it's possible to make a Dash V that accepts XLR for the input but I guarantee you that there will no benefit in performance. In fact, because of the different ways that some manufacturers route the XLR grounds there might actually be more noise using them instead of RCA. Remember, most users will be boosting the energy in the low end by a large margin. That is where all of the noise of a preamp hides, that's why a lot of companies use weighting to cheat their S/N spec. Every little bit counts in the game of maximizing dynamic range and I've found that RCA in's to XLR outs is the safest bet in maintaining low noise. If you have a 50 foot run of cable going to the Dash V, that would be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricci Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Rigol makes some good stuff for reasonable prices. Do it Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWCgrad Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Haha! In all seriousness though, I didn't take that picture. But every time you call I will see it from now on. Thanks, man for driving me about and letting me stay over. I enjoyed our weekend. Even enjoyed Bojangles a bit. Bojangles makes some tasty biscuits. Was pretty surprised by the low price on the linked oscilloscope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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