Infrasonic

And here I am, gone through nearly a dozen different Behringer amps in my adult life. Many of them used.

Never a single failure. Not one.

And I've fan modded them, even.

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Woah nelly! 

I can't forget experiencing TWO of these in a van back when Nick had just released them. These drivers are HULK-like!

12 hours ago, Ricci said:

I'm not surprised. It's probably used as a tactic to sell Atmos & get higher penetration into the market by how much obviously "better" it sounds.

Or perhaps they have 2 different mixing teams working on the tracks separately? Resulting in 2 different mixes? That seems like a monumental waste of time and money though. For coherency and efficiency you'd want to change as little of the mix as possible between formats. One would think at least.

This part.

The amount of over-generalizations that continue in these discussions never fails to make me chuckle but I gotta tell ya there are so many variables that account to what we end up getting on disc and play back at home. Nobody (who creates/produces what we hear) has time to go through each and every release made with a fine tooth enthusiast-audiophile "is-this-gonna-sound-awesome-on-my-home-stereo" kind of mentality. The important part is that dialog is intelligible and there are no downmix artifacts/issues and tell a story. That is about it. Next movie on the production line.....next and next and next. There is money to be made, people.

There is no need to sabotage legacy versions to sell the new hottness. People will buy the new hottness anyway and they are. Sometimes you just get crap because that is where the chips fell. Trust me, I think the reality of this sort of stuff is just as dumb as it sounds. I just enjoy what I get because even with the warts, it's still all awesome. My HT room has never sound better. What say you guys? Better time than ever to have an HT system.

From what I have read, I thought it was that tapped horns will not benefit with additional extension when used in stacks. However, front-loaded horn bass systems will.

I shoved all mine in a closet behind the MLP.

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I meant like, "scram, kid". 😂

I like how these are called the Skram.

People don't say scram anymore. Some people should tell other people to scram more often. 🤣

1 hour ago, Kyle said:

On paper, that looks like incredible value. Did the inuke have DSP too? 

https://www.parts-express.com/behringer-nx6000-ultra-lightweight-class-d-6000w-power-amplifier--248-7014

Probably needs a silent fan mod like pretty much everyone else they make tho.

 

Yeah there was always a DSP version of the iNuke amps.

This is a simple rebranding of the iNuke amps, like Behringer seems to do with their products every few years. Not dissimilar to the old Europower amps. The 1500 and 2500 "changed" to the 3000 and 4000. Same amps, new look/label.

The iNuke amps are indeed a great value, imho. I own several and have quiet modded them with Noctua fans. I'm kinda annoyed cuz these look better in black than the silver iNukes I have already. 😛

I want a bigger one.

Excellent work as always, Josh. You should get paid for this stuff, ya know.

Ah yes. That little machined lip kinda threw me off.

7 hours ago, Kyle said:

Is the magnet the top ring or the lower ring? Is one of those rings steel? I'm confused. Both look HAF (Huge As ***) Seems like it would be the top ring as I understand the B&C driver is an overhung gap so that ring can't be a gap plate... too tall!

 

Kinda looks like the upper part based off the pictures of the assembled driver. Not sure, really. Probably more machining to do.

On 1/17/2019 at 1:44 PM, SME said:

Dedicated subs for each Atmos output channel?  That's pretty ambitious!  I can't recall, but I thought Atmos heights were specified to be limited bandwidth?  Assuming they were, I also don't recall if the bass management was supposed to be done by the playback processor, the authoring tools, or by the mixers themselves.

All outputs from immersive audio formats are full range. The playback system handles the bass management. It is up to the mixer(s) to decide how much bass content goes to which location. While rare, it is totally possible to have full range content output from any speaker position, including the overhead speaker positions.

The surround mix was stellar. Can't wait to get it on disc.

On ‎8‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 8:11 PM, Kvalsvoll said:

Alien - Covenant: Anyone measured this? Could not find any graph.

Just watched it, sounded quite good to me, did not feel like much was missing in the low end. In my opinion, it does not need BEQ.

Sound aside, it is note a very optimistic film. Would not recommend it as a good way to pass time while on your first journey to March. If you do, since such a trip takes quite some time, you can watch the whole Alien series, then top it off with Prometheus and Covenant.

There was a graph. Must have disappeared with the rest.

I remember it graphed (and sounded/felt) well on my system. Thought the sound was pretty terrific actually. Nobody seems to like this movie though. I liked it well enough. Just wasn't the Prometheus sequel everyone wanted and expected. 

It's painfully obvious, especially after all this time and with a strong consensus in the community.... that there is not a technical limitation in play but rather a creative one. These start out as crummy mixes outright and they stay that way all the way to home video. So at least they are consistent.... consistently average at best.

There was ....

...until the original poster of them decided to redact all previous posts with them.  idk why

Holy cow! That looks like quite the heavy hitter, post BEQ.

Very nice.

3 hours ago, minnjd said:

DRC faeries aren't real.?

Then who are all those people living inside my surround processor?  

On 6/23/2018 at 12:25 AM, SME said:

I recall "Ex Machina" had a loud droning score toward the end and the DTS:X mix sent the score almost entirely to my surrounds.  I turned things down a bit because I was worried about long term power effects.

"Long term power effects" and... you were watching a movie?

For real, dude? Can't have ya worrying about a thing like that. Sounds like a new set of surrounds is in your near future.

On 6/22/2018 at 7:01 AM, MKtheater said:

I have not posted here in a while. So this is where all the old guys all hang.  Old as in long time posters.  Scott, good to see you still around. 

Lol yeah. All us crotchety geezers still postin. ?

Hey, James! *waves* Nice to see you around too!

On 6/22/2018 at 7:57 AM, minnjd said:

I finally got around to watching my Blu-Ray of Blade Runner 2049.

Like in the theater, lots of bass.  Most of it hovered above 30Hz but it was definitely weighty and sounded pretty good.

But I did run across an acronym that is really appropriate for this movie (plus Interstellar and TDKR):

ZIHL, or 'Zimmer Induced Hearing Loss'. 

 

Good lord was the music fucking loud.  And not for short amounts of time either.  One sustained synth tone had to be red lining in multiple channels and it went on, continuously, for over ten seconds.  There was no modulation, no variation, just "BWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH"

Something's wrong with your mixing when I have to lower my volume for that but can keep it constant through gunshots, spinner crashes and explosions.

I can't get this glorious blaring music loud enough in 2049, man. ?

Not even close. ?

A visit with the DRC fairy might alleviate the issues you're having with this particular movie and/or composer.

Sure. I mean, it's mostly a ~30hz extended movie with 1.5secs of massive ULF.

But yeah, I guess it is unfiltered.

Lookin' good!

Nice response too. That would even be a nice response post EQ.

Option #3: Use active crossover to mate each Cat to a pair of Othorn's as bass cabs. Set fullrange bass management in AVR. Highpass Othorn's if need be. ULF content in mains be damned. Use all Terraforms purely for LFE channel.

Haha, these hypotheticals are fun!

But seriously so much damage can be had with this system. I love it.

5 hours ago, StainlessSteve said:

Here is a RTA of thunder I took with my calibrated-to-4hz Dayton EMM-6 and a TASCAM US-1641 which starts dropping off at 20hz. The mic was inside a window behind the curtain with its windscreen on and SPL is uncalibrated but it clipped my mic just when it hit that peak at 4hz, and I had my mic at 3/4 of volume, so it was a pretty loud peak. The second image is with no smoothing was taken during the RTA. The first has 1/48th octave smoothing and is the total peak. I live far out in the country so there are no sources of infrasound from vehicles or factories except for a very low level 14hz tone from a glass plant about three miles away.

 

 

Suhweet! Did you happen to record this thunder?

Ever listen to the Danley fireworks recording?

Lol... guess there aren't enough Top Gear fans reading. ?

Yeah, Oblivion has got a nice amount of sub-20hz bass good for a Bass-EQ for sure. The Jurassic Park movies, not so much real deep stuff. Not sure which JP movie you were watching. I think JP3 has the most powerful deep bass of all of them.