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  1. FYI Nolan got a new effects mixer with TDKR: Gregg Landaker. Previously it was Lora Hirschberg. BTW, am I the only one who noticed that the graph had the peak bass between 50-60Hz? That's different..... I'm guessing this movie will 'slam' something fierce but there will be little underneath that. With every movie Nolan seems to be making his soundtracks more and more artificial in his never ending quest to be LOUDER than everything else.
  2. Those looks like bass graphs from the 'music' soundtrack, right? Typically that doesn't represent the bass levels of the movie itself. Hans Zimmer is pretty notorious for searching for the brown note on his soundtracks but a lot of the time it get's reduced or modified in the final mix once all the sound effects are competing for the same frequencies. Still, might be a nice surprise.
  3. I didn't ever say that I thought the movie had bad audio or visuals. Technically the movie is very well done and nearly flawless. I just didn't always agree artistically with the choices Villaneuve made regarding the visual and audio design. That's purely subjective to my tastes. Of course it goes without saying that my taste in movies is perfect. By that measure everyone else should finally come to terms with the fact that Titanic is a great movie
  4. Just wanted to add that I did like the movie and my points were mainly nitpicking. The only real issue I had was that the big apocalyptic event the movie was building towards got abandoned in the last twenty minutes for a much smaller ending that was fine on it's own but felt out of place.
  5. Just saw Blade Runner 2049. I don't know who did the sound design but it sounds like they took some cues from the Transformers movies. There are a lot of loud, groaning bass sounds when ships fly around and the music score is almost entirely comprised of massive low end metallic drones. Explosions and guns had some really good punch to them as well. so it's got a lot of bass. The theater I saw it in is probably good down to the low 30's so no clue if there's subsonic stuff going on or not, but given the intensity of the higher level bass I'm gonna venture a guess that it's filtered. The movie itself was pretty good, but not perfect. Visually it was spectacular. It shares some common threads with the original but it is definitely it's own movie. It's far darker and more oppressive visually. It sounds different, and while there are hints of Vangelis in the score, most of it is comprised of thunderous foghorn blasts that seem determined to wake the dead. It also feels very different. Blade Runner was a small story set in a big world. 2049 visits a lot more of this world and feels more apocalyptic in it's scope.
  6. I'm guessing someone will measure it 'officially' soon enough. Won't be me though. I've really cut back on my movie purchases this year (single income family situation), and I'm pretty sure this movie isn't worth my hard earned cash. It was funny reading the note that came with the theatrical distribution though. It gave explicit instructions of where the sound levels should be set (85dB reference). I asked the theater owner in my town is he followed it. He laughed and said 'no'. Smart man....... Judging by the previous movies and Bay's own penchant for excess I'm guessing the audio will be wall to wall racket with some heavy clipping. Look at the average on that graph. It's rare for it to get that close to the peak unless there's damn near constant bass.
  7. Personally I thought the warp booms sounded very close to the real thing......
  8. GOTG2 looks pretty much like the first one. Think it was the same sound team.
  9. Well the potential for movies to cause permanent hearing damage is certainly there, no doubt about that. Under reference playback I think it can hit peaks of well over 110dB if all channels are bumping. By and large it's rare for any movie to hit that level for extended periods, but some can average over 90dBA (Transformers AoE comes to mind). Even though Nolan's movies can get awfully loud and compressed I'd never for a minute say they were anywhere near as relentless loud as that. I do think that many (most?) theaters can't handle a Nolan soundtrack in it's element though. I remember a lot of ink being spent on how Interstellar was mixed to the very limit of an IMAX sound system's capability. Take that kind of thing and put it on a traditional multiplex sound system and it's pretty much guaranteed to sound like crap due to amp distortion. The EQ issues between theater and home playback are a lot less of a problem since they started doing HT mixes. Even if they don't do a full nearfield remix they usually re-equalize the theatrical track to tame the boosted treble frequencies. They may not give a hoot about bass but even HTIB systems can reveal overly trebly sound. And yes, I too wonder if the OSHA standards might be a bit lacking. I run our church band at about 90-92 dBA and after a technical run through and two services my ears definitely feel like they have cotton in them.
  10. I know I'm probably over reacting, I'm just feeling like this today: As far as Nolan having hearing damage, I doubt it. I think you can sustain a constant 90-100 dB for up to two hours a day without permanent hearing damage (according to OSHA). Even with as loud as Nolan's movies get it's doubtful they'd hit that limit.
  11. Just read a depressing article. A guy at a site I follow is a big Nolan fan and he drove 500 miles to see Dunkirk in 70mm. That's pretty cool, but he then went on to say two of his favorite audio demo discs were The Dark Knight Rises and Interstellar due to their 'incredible sound.'
  12. Well it's his problem when he has his mixers crank effects up so far that they become compressed, honky, clipped messes (DKR, Interstellar) with heavily filtered LFE's.
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