congrats again adam...outstanding job!!
bosso I've been reading your take on all things bass for years now...as in any community you gain respect with time spent interacting.
just like to say thanks for your contributions...
and that raptor is just BADASS...beautiful work
can I have one...huh, can I?
Thanks for the much appreciated comments.
Unfortunately, the forums are mostly a platform for ID manufacturers to sell their wares. The obvious result of that is that there is mostly a bunch of baloney posted that supports the strong points of the budget systems they offer. That part of it never bothered me. What is bothersome about all of that is that the ID principals, either directly or through their shill posters, give information that basically tries to explain why anything their products can't do is not worth doing.
I've never used any forum to sell anything. I've just posted the basic formula to achieve the task at hand. One of the important parts of the equation is amplifier power, which I'll post about after this post when I get a minute because Adam does indeed have the first true Bossobas A14K in the wild and it's an amazing piece of hardware and value, IMHO.
Recently, one of my least favorite forum posters, Tom Vodhanl, has come back with his usual tripe. He claims to have more experience measuring and interpreting subwoofer data than "all the so-called experts on this (AVS) forum". That implies that everyone else on the forums is a so-called expert, but he is an actual expert. He uses the same formula for evading being called out on such outrageously false claims that he used a decade ago when he was with SVS. He drops industry names, usually ones who have little to do with the subject, he accuses the caller-out of having an axe to grind with a personal vendetta against him and he uses that platform to discredit the actual pertinent information.
When AVS deleted one of my posts and warned me that I should report him and not reply to his nonsense or suggested how I should post, I decided that I'm not willing to accept those new world order guidelines for posting in a public forum. I've said everything I care to say on the subject, many, many times. It's time for me to move on and leave the sub forums to the real experts.
In any case, the bottom line is always the results.
I use only actual soundtrack source as test input and only measured in-room at the listening position data for evaluation. This is possible through the cheap availability of massive computing power and extremely well-written, complex software like REW and Spectrumlab, both of which are free for the downloading.
When you can send the electronic signal directly off the recording to SL for accurate interpretation through no less that 3 metrics and directly compare that content to the version of same presented by your subwoofer system to a lab grade audio measurement rig at your seats, there is nothing left to test or ramble on about.
You'll be able to scrutinize the result and easily detect harmonic distortion, group delay (which is directly proportional to FR by a formula), FR non-linearity, bandwidth integrity, transient response and clipping.
With simple loopback measurements you can accurately measure your signal chain, piece-by-piece and in toto.
When I made the claim that aggressive limiters infinitely change the in-room response by playback level, it's as simple to verify as using a reference soundtrack scene at progressive levels through SL.
Honestly, if someone had told me that 10 years ago, I would have been instantly ecstatic for the heads up and forever grateful for saving me the years it took until I stumbled upon the information and began using it to tweak my system. Instead, it's met with baloney that it isn't so because ID sub folks love to preach that their little bang-for-buck sub is capable of 120dB playback or, more recently, that their system "handled HTTYD at well above reference level with no problem". How simple is a statement like that to prove?
I've posted the result many times since the test was done but I never said the system handled the task "with no problem". It's a seriously huge problem to accurately reproduce that scene and many other scenes in that movie. It's clear by cursory examination that the scene has strong content to 2 Hz and that my system is only accurately handling the playback to just below 4 Hz. The in-room response also shows a slight dip between 10-16 Hz vs the content and that there is some slight FR non-linearity through the 100 Hz crossover region.
I only have thought over the years that there would have been one forum to which one could go to see data attached to claims and erasure of "...knocked the leaves off my neighbor across the street's trees..." kinda bullshit.
And, yes, you can have one. That was the who;e point of selling one to Adam.
I promised some folks that I would do a special limited run of Raptor System 2 and System 3 this year. I air freighted the final driver version for Adam's system so that he could have it up and running now that his HT is finally done. The rest of the drivers are in production and the rest of the systems are finished and waiting for the drivers to load them and test.
I've kept a list of those who were interested from the US and various other countries and will ping them. If anyone else is interested, they will be sold on a first-come, first-served basis at special pricing. Just go to www.bossobass.com and click the contact tab in the navigation bar and e-mail me for the details. Please, if you are outside the US, let me know what country/city they need to be shipped to for an accurate estimate of shipping costs, VAT, duties, etc.
The hits on my site, which I have never advertised, are pretty compelling. Besides the US, Canada and Great Britain, the order of hits to the site goes; Germany, Brazil, Norway, China. Other countries where I've sold Ravens and other subs, like Greece and the Caribean Islands show less hits, but it only takes one interested visitor.
Kyle and Josh: If that kind of info is not cool, just LMK and I'll delete it.
I redid the site to eliminate some stuff and add some stuff and to get the graphics right because I haven't updated the site for 2 years. For those who've been to the site before, empty your caches or just refresh each page when you go there for the first time since the update. And, please let me know if you catch errors in spelling, links, graphics, etc. I will appreciate that.
I also include a pic Elena took on the front page. I gave her credit and put a link to her site. Hits are always appreciated, if it's not too much bother.
Thanks again to Adam and his family. They are as cool as it gets and it was a trip Paul and I won't soon forget.