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#1441 maxmercy

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 10:16 PM

Is it possible to get the Norwegian version in the US w/ English subs?

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 10:18 PM

Coming soon: Jumper and Priest.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 03:28 PM

Is it possible to get the Norwegian version in the US w/ English subs?

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Yes, but you will have to make it yourself.

 

By adding the English subtitles from the English version, to the Norwegian 7.1 version, of course this will only work if the versions are similar part from the audio and subtitles. 

Not likely that anyone would go through that much trouble just to get the 7.1 soundtrack.

 

I checked my Norwegian version now, and find that there are no English subtitles.

I also had no idea that the other versions would have a 5.1 soundtrack.

Well, the media business never disappoints when it comes to finding new ways to fail and destroy excellent products, so I guess it should not come as a big surprise that they managed to screw it up. 

 

From what I read in here I find it likely that the 5.1 soundtrack is still very good, and it is likely that it is encoded in Pro-logic and then you will not miss anything significant.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 03:30 PM

The Frozen Ground (5.1 DTS-HD MA)

Level        - 1 Star (104dB composite)
Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (29.3dB)
Execution - 4 Stars (by poll)

 

Overall     -  3.5 Stars

Recommendation - Rent (by poll)

 

Notes:  Yep, it's a Nick Cage movie.  And, yeah, it's really low level for some reason.  However, this thing has tons of legit ULF content, plus no clipping!  Great use of the LFE bandwidth in this, with lots of very innovative and non-repetitive bass effects and sweeps.  The Frozen Ground doesn't contain huge effects, just immense amounts of super deep bass throughout.  This one ain't for ported subs - if you don't have a lot of sealed sub displacement and relatively low signal chain roll off, you won't think this movie is special.  The low level reminds me a bit of The Spider-man - content's there, just gotta turn it up a bit.  The sound design isn't the best, but the bass is quite well done.

 

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Attached File  TFG-PvA.PNG   34.45KB   15 downloads



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:19 AM

Looks like Pac Rim with DTS audio is up on some unnameable sites. Hopefully it's better than the DD version  <_<



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 01:54 AM

I can wait.  We'll see.

 

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:24 PM

After Earth (5.1 DTS-HD MA)

 

Level        - 4 Stars (111.1dB composite)
Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (32.33dB !!!)
Execution - 4 Stars (by poll)

 

Overall     - 4.5 Stars

 

Recommendation - Rent (by poll)

 

Notes:  We have a contender for 2013 ULF Film of the Year!  This one has tons of content below 20Hz (mostly in the first half of the movie), with some of it pretty hot!  There's almost no clipping; I did find one small section when scrolling through the various channels, but never heard it in playback. 

 

This movie's bass is a little deceptive because its mix doesn't contain any HUGE effects aside from the end of the asteroid storm scene, but I felt like the LFE was generally employed quite well.  There is a lot of very low level ULF early on that's used specifically to create tension.  It was definitely the kind of mix that blended well with what was happening on-screen.

 

The movie isn't as bad as its IMDb rating, but it's still pretty bad, and the ending is one of the worst I think I've ever seen in any movie.  Definitely rental fodder.

 

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Attached File  AE-PvA.PNG   28.3KB   48 downloads

 

SpecLab graphs - timestamps contained in the file names:

 

Attached File  AE-0.00.22-0.00.48.PNG   190.4KB   64 downloads

 

Attached File  AE-0.15.15-0.15.26.PNG   68.58KB   58 downloads

 

Attached File  AE-0.17.16-0.18.49 Asteroid Storm.PNG   341.24KB   54 downloads

 

Attached File  AE-0.20.51-0.21.36.PNG   250.64KB   47 downloads

 

Attached File  AE-0.58.50-0.59.41.PNG   323.62KB   29 downloads



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:52 AM

Wow.  It will be between Oblivion, Kon-Tiki, and this one for LFE of the year, unless MoS or PacRim can deliver....we'll have an end-of-year poll....

 

Priest and Jumper will be up soon as well, and I will put up some new films for polling.

 

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:42 AM

After Earth might be the Battle LA of 2013. Terrible movie, amazing ULF and decent visuals make it watchable?



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:27 PM

Wow.  It will be between Oblivion, Kon-Tiki, and this one for LFE of the year, unless MoS or PacRim can deliver....we'll have an end-of-year poll....

 

Priest and Jumper will be up soon as well, and I will put up some new films for polling.

 

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Let's not leave Olympus Has Fallen out of the mix!

 

I don't know if I'd put After Earth in the same category as B:LA, either as a bass movie or as a movie overall. AE was just a gawdawful movie, IMO. B:LA was mindless, but entertaining. Also, many more bass scenes than AE which, after the ship crashing about 1/2 hour into the movie, has just one other short scene I can remember with notable bass. Just my opinion, of course.



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:35 PM

It is a pleasure to come here and actually read ratings for new movies with bass. To much mumbojumbo at the other one. I go down to the store every Tuesday or Wednesday to pick up a couple of new releases on BD and this page certainly helps. I also live by the smartphone app Flickster with rotten tomatoes.  If you don't have it, I suggest it. Gives you all the info on movies in the theaters and upcoming movies on DVD. Ratings are pretty much dead on. Last night I picked up Frozen ground and Resolution and also got the Stars wars trilogy. Picked up Frozen ground because of the ratings here, but Flickster had a poor user rating. I was going to get After Earth, but I think it was one of lowest ratings on a movie I seen in awhile at like 11%, pretty bad, bass or no bass, not buying it. Thanks for all the info guys. 



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 02:40 PM

After Earth might be the Battle LA of 2013. Terrible movie, amazing ULF and decent visuals make it watchable?

 

That's probably stretching it.  After Earth is a pretty terrible movie.  I thought B:LA was an almost decent movie - certainly not good, but not terrible or even bad - mediocre is the best superlative I can think of.  I agree with what wth718 says below:

 

Let's not leave Olympus Has Fallen out of the mix!

 

I don't know if I'd put After Earth in the same category as B:LA, either as a bass movie or as a movie overall. AE was just a gawdawful movie, IMO. B:LA was mindless, but entertaining. Also, many more bass scenes than AE which, after the ship crashing about 1/2 hour into the movie, has just one other short scene I can remember with notable bass. Just my opinion, of course.

 

Pretty much completely agreed - we should definitely not leave OHF out.  I personally consider it a much better bass movie than Oblivion, but Oblivion is no slouch.  AE doesn't feel like it has a lot of big bass scenes, as you said, but it does contain a fair amount of bass content overall, and especially ULF content.  It's just such a terrible movie.

 

It is a pleasure to come here and actually read ratings for new movies with bass. To much mumbojumbo at the other one. I go down to the store every Tuesday or Wednesday to pick up a couple of new releases on BD and this page certainly helps. I also live by the smartphone app Flickster with rotten tomatoes.  If you don't have it, I suggest it. Gives you all the info on movies in the theaters and upcoming movies on DVD. Ratings are pretty much dead on. Last night I picked up Frozen ground and Resolution and also got the Stars wars trilogy. Picked up Frozen ground because of the ratings here, but Flickster had a poor user rating. I was going to get After Earth, but I think it was one of lowest ratings on a movie I seen in awhile at like 11%, pretty bad, bass or no bass, not buying it. Thanks for all the info guys. 

 

Thank maxmercy for all that.  :)  It's his ingenuity that makes it all possible!  I would recommend you continue to use Flickster ratings when considering which movies to buy.  After Earth, for instance, definitely isn't worth buying - same goes for a lot of these flicks.



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:19 PM

Let's not leave Olympus Has Fallen out of the mix!

 

I don't know if I'd put After Earth in the same category as B:LA, either as a bass movie or as a movie overall. AE was just a gawdawful movie, IMO. B:LA was mindless, but entertaining. Also, many more bass scenes than AE which, after the ship crashing about 1/2 hour into the movie, has just one other short scene I can remember with notable bass. Just my opinion, of course.

 

Agreed. OHF, Oblivion and Kon Tiki are all overall better LFE films vs AE. AE cant compete with Battle LA overall either. AE was a flat out terrible film in my book as well and I almost shut it off a few times watching yesterday it was so bad! 



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 04:44 PM

Yes, but you will have to make it yourself.

 

By adding the English subtitles from the English version, to the Norwegian 7.1 version, of course this will only work if the versions are similar part from the audio and subtitles. 

Not likely that anyone would go through that much trouble just to get the 7.1 soundtrack.

 

If you playback on a computer, then it is easy to just select an external subtitle file for a movie. This movie is different in that it was shot twice - once in English and once in Norwegian. The Norwegian version is 119 minutes and the English version is 96 minutes. You would need the English subtitle file for the 119 minute version.



 

 

Two Versions of 'Kon-Tiki' in Two Different Languages



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 06:58 PM

For anyone interested this is the Norwegian release of Kon-Tiki,

 

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   Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      AVC     1:58:48 33,599,508,480  33,599,611,420  37.71   30.77   DTS-HD Master 7.1 5069Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) 
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     KT
Disc Size:      33,599,611,420 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 1:58:48.138 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   33,599,508,480 bytes
Total Bitrate:          37.71 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        30773 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Norwegian       5069 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 5069 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
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It looks identical to me?



#1456 maxmercy

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 07:22 PM

In December we'll put up a poll and vote on it.  OHF will be included.

 

So after all of the gushing over Oblivion, I decided to take a closer look a the soundtrack.  It does clip in many places, usually at a lower level (-3 to -4dBFS), mainly in the front channels.  But it simply does not sound as harsh as STID, and the soundtrack blends well with the film, much better than the clipping in the Tron score.  I think the sound is very well done in it, and it goes to show that clipping can be used to good effect at times, and other times not so much.

 

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:57 PM

Saw Kon-Tiki last night.  TONS of LFE, but almost overdone in that department, IMO.   Except for the storm, it was very good.

 

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 03:17 PM

Been away from these pages for a while, so much to comment on.

 

I'll start by expressing thanks for Open Range. Infrasonic had it right, "sharp, percussive bass" for sure. I was turned on to Open Range by Mark Seaton, because of it's demo worthy soundtrack. A good movie for sure, but those incredibly demanding transient hits pack a punch with the right system. 

 

Looking at those SL graphs, you can clearly see why it's so percussive and demanding... high level, decade wide blasts from about 10hz-100hz. Spectrally, they vary, but those thin horizontal red lines, each blast clearly separated by the blue. My system is tailor made for effects like these, but a year ago at Cedia, I experienced an Open Range demo on the ├╝ber expensive Steinway Lyngdorf line source system. Hands down, I'd never heard any transients like this ever before. These tall dipoles (15)5", and a line of AMT folded ribbons, with maybe (24)12"s, stunning impact that makes you jump, amazing. I've detailed that particular demo session before, so I won't add to that.   

 

Looking at those SL graphs, I see why.

 

Again, headroom is our friend. Even hearing that demo many times, the average level wasn't appreciably higher than usual, but the peak energy from the gunshot effects packed much more energy than any previous listen. So again, this further bolsters the often cited axiom that compression effects, affect the playback sooner, and is often more impactful than is otherwise known. Resolving demanding peak energy accurately is a tall order.    

 

 

Also, I appreciate the heads up wrt Kon-Tiki.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 03:32 PM

Time to catch up!

 

Coming to day are Jumper and Priest

 

 

Poll results:

 

World War Z gets 4 Stars and Buy

 

The Iceman gets 4 Stars and Rent

 

Iron Man 3 gets 3 Stars and Rent

 

 

Up for polling on separate threads soon:

 

Lord of the Rings Theatrical BD for The Two Towers and Return of the King

 

Commando

 

The Croods

 

Inside

 

Open Range

 

Lords of Salem

 

Kon-Tiki

 

The Frozen Ground

 

After Earth

 

 

Be sure to vote!

 

 

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 07:10 PM

I'll leave the 6 polls up for a week or so, then get to the others.  

 

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