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The Low Frequency Content Thread (films, games, music, etc)

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I hope everyone who has the ability to use SpecLab reads the tutorial thread and starts posting waterfalls! I will link whatever you post to the right film's PvA post.

 

JSS

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Project X used an 'octaver' function on the music at times and boosted the octave down content by 10-20dB. It is a POWERFUL effect! Too bad 99% of all cinema-goers did not experience it.....

 

JSS

Yes it's impressive. The movie was rubbish but that's neither here nor there

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Brave so far is looking like 4-star, and Buy. Percy Jackson, Cloverfield, and Inception this weekend.

 

Dave, you have mail! Thanks for your help!

 

JSS

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Brave got 4 Stars for Execution and is a Buy according to the poll.   Thanks to everyone who voted! 

 

Cloverfield:

 

Level - 5 Stars (114.34dB composite!!)

Extension - 4 Stars (15Hz)

Dynamics - 4 Stars (25.51dB)

Execution - 5 Stars - This is a monster film with monster bass.  I cannot stand the shaky-cam, but the LF in this film is very powerful, but doesn't get into single digits.  If anyone thinks this should be a 4 because of the highpass, lemme know.

 

Overall - 4.5 Stars

 

Recommendation - Rent.  If you can stand the shaky-cam, BUY.

 
PvA:
 
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JSS

 

 

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Percy Jackson and The Olympians:The Lightning Thief

 

DTSHD-MA Track:

 

Level - 4 Stars (111.8 dB composite)

Extension - 4 Stars (just above 10Hz)

Dynamics - 5 Stars (27.67dB)

Execution - 5 Stars - This film does not want for anything save for <10Hz.  But the bass that is there is tremendous.

 

Overall - 4.5 Stars

 

 

Recommendation - Buy.

 

 

JSS

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Inception:

 

Level - 4 Stars (111.61dB)

Extension - 4 Stars (13Hz)

Dynamics - 5 Stars (29.75dB)

Execution - 4 Stars - Maybe it was on purpose, but the LF use was just 'off' in this film.  There is great use of midbass at times, and this film brings the level, but the sound design is not conventional, esp in the dreamscapes.

 

Overall - A solid 4.25 Stars

 

Recommendation - Buy.  Terrific premise, and well done.  A little long for my tastes, but a good film.

 

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Fantastic results on all!

 

You couldn't get me to suggest any less than 5 for Cloverfield though. That's one of my personal favorites. :P

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All three were bass monsters.  Coming sometime this week:

 

Halo 4:Forward Unto Dawn

The Haunting

Lord of the Rings:The Fellowship of the Ring BD Extended Edition

 

I expect good things from all.

 

Much thanks to Japandave for helping streamline the data processing involved with the PvA graphs!

 

 

JSS

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Wow, only extension to 13hz for Cloverfeild!!!! I thought it would have gone much lower.

 

Only in blu-ray, dvd have unfiltered track, but its something 5-6db lower in level.

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Only in blu-ray, dvd have unfiltered track, but its something 5-6db lower in level.

 

Wah?!? :o

 

Argh! Well...at least it's ~10hz and not 30hz. :rolleyes:

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Well that sucks.  Like Infrasonic said, at least it was at 10Hz, not one and a half octaves above (Avengers) or two octaves above (Battleship)....

 

JSS

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Depends on what you mean by 'better'.

 

By removing 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 octaves of information, you can boost the remaining information by the 5-6dB lfeman stated. Easy, and louder.

 

It is a choice made at the sound design/sound mixing console, just like mixing with limiters (Immortals), a stronger high pass (Avengers&Battleship), or just pushing the faders up until everything but the LFE channel clips (Tron Legacy).

 

Then there are the well crafted tracks that use the whole bandwidth (How to Train Your Dragon/9/etc) that do get just as loud as the 'it's all high-passed' films. The best mixes high pass certain effects for high perceived level (Equal Loudness Curves), and use many narrowband effects in different frequency bands as well as the ubiquitous sweep (thanks Ironhide) for heft.

 

Broadband effects require lots of bandwidth, so designers and mixers have to be creative when trying to replicate them.

 

JSS

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Inception:

 

Level - 5 Stars (268.2dBHz)

Extension - 4 Stars (11Hz)

Dynamics - 5 Stars (30dB)

Execution - 4 Stars - Maybe it was on purpose, but the LF use was just 'off' in this film.  There is great use of midbass at times, and this film brings the level, but the sound design is not conventional, esp in the dreamscapes.

 

Overall - A solid 4.5 Stars

 

Recommendation - Buy.  Terrific premise, and well done.  A little long for my tastes, but a good film.

 

 

MaxRMS 117.9dB
LeqZ 94.9dB
MaxPeak 124.3dB
 

Inception is, to my ears, one of the worst LFE tracks I have heard. The whole sub 80hz audio has a very distorted signature. perhaps its just me, but, I would give it a 1 or max 2 in the Execution category. Unless I misunderstood what that part is...

 

 

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New poll.  Execution for Inception.... I agree the bass was strange, but I thought that may have been on purpose....it'll be up for a week or so.

 

JSS

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Wow, only extension to 13hz for Cloverfeild!!!! I thought it would have gone much lower.

My thoughts exactly! Love the bass it that flick, though.

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